Extra Pack Finalization Project (Part 3)

[Wernazuma III]

Thank you Eli! I'll fix the list.

I pretty sure that Ezion-Geber should have meant Zion Mountain.
So Geber is not the Hebrew pendant to arabic "Gebr"?

[Eli]

So Geber is not the Hebrew pendant to arabic "Gebr"?

Am I supposed to know Arabic?
Zion Mountain? Isnt this just a ... errm... well... mountain? Why should it be a city?(or am I missing something here)

And I think that the city order should be more like(and I added Ashkelon):
Jerusalem
Tel Aviv
Hebron
Jericho
Betlehem
Be'er Sheva
Haifa
Shchem
Tsfat
Jaffa
Nasaret
Ramat-Gan
Netanya
Eilat
Ashdod
Ashkelon
Tiberias
Shilo
Giliead
Masada
Gamla
Dan
Betar
Yavneh
Mizpah

[Ecowiz Returns]

On the Portuguese King, can it be João II (or John II)?
Portugal had 6 Kings named João, so keeping just that name may be confusing.

As for the Nau (it is the current Portuguese name, although in Ancient Portuguese it was, I believe, as El Aurence wrote) I think it should be a Caravel with one addicional move per turn.

On shunned government we didn't have many opinions in the Portuguese Civ thread but two of us think Communism is more correct.

In my opinion we can actually testify it in our history: although the resistance against the dictactorial Regime between 1926 and 1974 was mostly protagonized by the Communist Party, when they tried to implant a communist Regime in 1974-75 the people and the army prevented it to happen. These are just my thoughts, though. I don't know if the other Portuguese would agree with this reasoning.

[Gholam]

Add Rehovot to list of Hebrews cities please, I won't forgive you if you don't, I live there

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
On the Portuguese King, can it be João II (or John II)?

Yes, it shall be John II, but numbers have been left out in the original civs too. It's not Elisabeth I of England, but only Elisabeth, Cleopatra VII is just Cleopatra, Montezuma II is only Montezuma, so...

Eli/Gholam: I'll fix the city list; Rehovot seems to be big enough to add it anyway...

[Wernazuma III]

Eli et al.: You can go on suggesting more city names. the hebrew city list is still one of the shortest...

[Eli]

Originally posted by Gholam
Add Rehovot to list of Hebrews cities please, I won't forgive you if you don't, I live there

Really? I lived there for a year.

[Jer8m8]

Sena is a city in Yemen. The Lemba in South Africa, who say they are Jewish, tell of departing from Sena

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Jer8m8

Sena is a city in Yemen. The Lemba in South Africa, who say they are Jewish, tell of departing from Sena

One of those interesting occasions when oral history is 'proved' correct:

https://www.biblemysteries.com/library/dna

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/familylemba.html

https://www.dangoor.com/72page25.html

Similarly, Irish legends/myths containing accounts of ancient roads were dismissed until evidence of ancient road systems were found well-preserved in the bogs which they crossed:

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~hgeissel/Local/Twoone.htm

[Fresno]

Concerning the Dutch, Hoogeveen isn't a good city to include, since it is historically totally unimportant. Till WO2, it was nothing but a village. I think it should be replaced with Meppel, which is much older, and always was the centre of trade and culture in this region. It was flourishing during the time of the peat industry.

[JayKay]

I think that a good city name to be added to the Dutch City List is New Amesterdam, because it's the colonial name of today New York!

The Dutch founded New Amesterdam which was lately captured by the english, who changed it's name to New York!
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Portugal
Nation of: Magellan's (from Magellan's Expedition);
Vasco da Gama (Discoverer of the Maritime path to India);
and Pedro Álvares Cabral (Discoverer of Brazil in 1500)

[Wernazuma III]

I decided not to include New Amsterdam because, as you might know, after having used all city names, new cities automatically get the same names just having a "New" in front of them.

[Solomyr]

For the UU of the Hebrews, I suggest a 3-3-1 replacement for the pikeman. It would reflect the ability to fight back once attacked. I would have recommended a 2.3.1, but I think that one extra attack would be useless against knights with a defense of 3. The name should also be the Macabee. Or you could leave the UU at 1.3.1, and have it treat all terrain as roads, as the Macabee's were guerilla warriors for the most part (Appropriate time of year to have this discussion). I ask for the other MOTs to give their thoughts on these suggestions.

[JayKay]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
I decided not to include New Amsterdam because, as you might know, after having used all city names, new cities automatically get the same names just having a "New" in front of them.

Hmmm...sorry! Actually i didn't know that! I haven't made that many cities yet, because i only have played in tiny maps and i just make a few cities and then capture all the others!
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Portugal
Nation of: Magellan's (from Magellan's Expedition);
Vasco da Gama (Discoverer of the Maritime path to India);
and Pedro Álvares Cabral (Discoverer of Brazil in 1500)

[Fresno]

Wernazuma III: Could you react to my previous post about Hoogeveen/Meppel please? Who should I ask to change the list?

Further, I think the title of the Dutch leader should be 'stadtholder', not 'king'.