Stop the America-bashing!

[Herr David]

Now I feel much better, not quite being a teenager any more, and still spending all day typing ignorantly, if not illiterately, on webforums on how crappy America is.

[sargon2]

Originally posted by ~Vodka~
The ONLY and ONLY way I see for him to react without digging any further into the hole he has dug, is to withdrawl, ask for the cooperation of ALL the arab nations AND Arafat that proposed peace and look for other ways of ending the terrorism problem; they need to go to the U.S. and other more powerful nations for help. Not asking for more money for an already over-blown army but to use intelligence to find where the terrorists are coming from and pressure that country(s) to do somthing about it.

Agree.
A wise statement. They all got psychological complexes. The only way out is outside helping. First division, secondly building up infrastrukture, thirdly making channels of slow reconnectin and recommunication - as good neighbors have. The palestinians need as a base to join this way maximal control on their land - witch means complete civilian and military withdrawl of the Israelites and isolation to Israel. The Israelites need complete peace and silence to regain feeling of control inside their land and isolation to Palestine. Then next steps may be started. And between these parties a robust and in every cases impartial force of several nations (not US, German, UK, Arab, Islamic) gets stationed on the borderline. And on and on.
Following my estimation suicidebombings would decrease 95-100%. Depends on the real fundamentalistic capacity, for normal desperated people would become content or happy, that they can start their pursuit of happiness (build a house that won't get bulldozed, build up an manufacuring or company that will provide jobs for many people for a long time not only till next airplanebombing. A perspectiv would refire life and hope in the minds of desperates.
No people is evil by nature.

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY OUT. But it needs a consterted action, and generous spending and engagment.
May be u heard of the plan of the German Foreign minister, he collected a number of existing advises and mixed a peaceplan that is similar I expained, the only difference, but that could be added, is that the target must be said to the conflictparties before and without euphemism - just directl, what they have to give and what they get - but no halfway compromises. Because both Arabs and Jews are exelent hagglers. The price must be fixed before. Not that kind of plans: we will negotiate problem x later in 2 years.

I call the motto of this strategy: persuade of happiness

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
Typical Americans are stupid, ignorant teenagers who spend all day typing illiterately on forum websites about how crappy the rest of the world is (i.e Alaska and Hawaii, as there is nowhere else, is there?) and mumbling about Hitler and how they saved Yurop's ass.

That's a great conclusion of this thread ! I had to come on 'Poly to witness that most Americans do not correspond though

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by ~Vodka~
I think that Sharone doesn't realize that he is just breeding more terrorists by attacking his own arab population. The terrorists that are doing the bombings are often from other nations such as Saudi Arabia or Iran or Pakistan.

As the terrorists frequently identify themselves in videotapes as Palestinians and their identities are confirmed by Israeli intelligence as Palestinian, where do you get the notion that the bombers are Saudis, Iranians or Pakistanis?

[Beren]

But the bad news is that is all not likely to happen. Right now, the violence only increases.

[siredgar]

Well, maybe the U.S. should just pull out of world affairs altogether so I wouldn't have to pay so many damn taxes for sending troops abroad and supporting Israel, Egypt, etc. How would you like that?

[~Vodka~]

Yeah, I think we should go back to post-WWI style america (minus the depression) and be isolationists.... Who needs the world? Oh thats right, we do just as much as any other nation does (if not more).

Pointless insults tward Americans is just a waste of effort anyways, the typical american doesnt bother to visit any forum and could care less about anything you have to say anyhow.

Just to ask, where do you get your information about Americans? The TV news, comedy shows, or do you just assume that every ass of the internet that annoys you must be American?

Why can't you Europeans drop the hatchet and start bashing a common opponent? We had it going and you just asked for more bashing...?

[Beren]

Originally posted by siredgar
Well, maybe the U.S. should just pull out of world affairs altogether so I wouldn't have to pay so many damn taxes for sending troops abroad and supporting Israel, Egypt, etc. How would you like that?

Anyone wondering what we ment with simplistic?

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by ~Vodka~
Why can't you Europeans drop the hatchet and start bashing a common opponent? We had it going and you just asked for more bashing...?

Actually, I'm the one who asked for more America bashing and I'm as American as apple pie. I just like the punishment I guess; I'm a bit of a masochist...

[siredgar]

This condescending attitude by Europeans towards Americans is the principal reason why I started this thread.

You're no better than us. In fact, you're much worse. Slavery, colonialism, and racism (NOT TO MENTION many of the problems in the Middle East) are all EUROPEAN legacies. Evidently, from all of the postings here, the European superiority complex has not subsided WHATSOEVER.

Stop WHINING like little BABIES and do something if you think the U.S. is doing such a poor job.

[Beren]

Originally posted by siredgar
You're no better than us. In fact, you're much worse. Slavery, colonialism, and racism (NOT TO MENTION many of the problems in the Middle East) are all EUROPEAN legacies. Evidently, from all of the postings here, the European superiority complex has not subsided WHATSOEVER.

Europe has done some things wrong in the past, so did America. Let's talk about the present: America has a monkey for president. Supports Israeli terrorism in the Westbank and Gaza. Kills more people in Afghanistan than that are killed in NYC. And still they keep saying they are doing great.
It is the American attitude that disturbs me. Everywhere they go, every conference they are, they are going to tell the rest of the world what's right for them. If somebody, disagrees: he is a terrorist. (Who's not with us, is against us.)
Your foreign policy sucks. (Dunno about your home affair policy, nothing to do with that.) For example: Your continuant insults versus Iran make no sense at all. They don't support terror, they are sworn ennemies of the Taliban and they, initially wanted to join the war in Afghanistan. Sure, they want to have rockets with a larger range, but wouldn't you, if Pakistan has nuclear weapons, Iraq is developing the same sort of weapons, as for Israel. Iran needs those weapons in order to compete. Iran has elected a progressive president (however you call it.) Changes are being made.
What does Bush? He calls them one of the Axis of evil and principally supports the conservatives in that country by saying that.
You don't care about human rights. (Think about Al-Qaeda prisoners.) You bomb nations of whom you don't like the leader. (See Libya, Ghadaffi.) I don't like Bush. Maybe we should bomb America.

[siredgar]

LOL! Go ahead, try to bomb America.

[Beren]

Maybe I will...

[siredgar]

Well, our monkey President is trained to push buttons, too! You know what I'm talking about...

[Beren]

The million dollar question:
Who is the monkey, who is the president?