Stop the America-bashing!

[Arrian]

Enjoy the party Serb. I, too, will be MIA (missing in action) for the weekend, as I have a bunch of friends coming to visit. It will take me a while to recover, I'm sure.

-Arrian

[Serb]

Arrian, how are you feeling today? Are you still “missing in action”?
As for me, I think KIA (killed in action) is the best abbreviating to describe my condition after the yesterday’s party.
I have Chernobyl’s explosion in my head when I wake up at this morning. Cognac, vodka and beer are not the best combination if you ask me.
Btw, today I watch the USA vs. Finland hockey’s match, very impressive.

[Arrian]

Serb,

Cognac, Vodka and Beer? That does sound like a nasty combination. I'd bet it was the Cognac that caused the trouble. Vodka and Beer are good guys, I know them well, but I never did trust that Cognac dude.

I'm fine, actually. I stuck to Whiskey and Beer for the most part, with a little bit of Rum on Saturday night. I'm feeling a little stupid today, and I'm really glad I took the morning off from work. Luckily for my liver, the guys who came to visit this past weekend don't get together all that often.

-Arrian

[SieGermans]

quote:

"I don't know, but when I think of America, distinctive culture does not come to mind"


you must not get out very much or read the news. Coca-Cola, MTV, and Hollywood are ALL examples of distinctive American Culture. they are overbearing in the world because most youths like the globalization and liberalism of American Culture as opposed to restricting heritage. this has lead to conflict, and is why so many muslims don;t like us. America is also a major scientific contributor to the world. to stay on subject, the camera and the motion picture were both invented by Americans.

[Dry]

Originally posted by SieGermans
quote:
...to stay on subject, the camera ... .

Do you mean Nicephor Niepce - inventor of camera obscura (1822) - was American?

Originally posted by SieGermans
quote:
... and the motion picture were both invented by Americans.

Yes ... and no. Edison invented the motion picture camera, but the french Lumiere brothers, invented the motion picture projector.

Timeline of photography here:

http://www.eastman.org/5_timeline/5_index.html

[SieGermans]

Dry,
the motion picture camera and studio by which he can play the movies were both made by Edison, Lumiere merely refined the video camera. Edison also invented the battery to power this device.

the camera obscura was not a real camera. film wasn't even a though then. it was merely a projector that allowed an artist to draw clearly. I am refering to the Civil War photography work done by Walt Whitman and the modern shutter cameras invented by Eastmann.

[Dauphin]

It never ceases to amaze me that people ignore the inventions/scientific progress of other nations scientists and believe their countrymen to have done the definitive work.

[SieGermans]

it never ceases to amaze me how so many obnoxious people fail to regard anything that comes out of America.

[SieGermans]

if you read my other post which I know you did, you'd know that I give other nations the credit they deserve with the inventions they came up with. now why don't you start accepting the fact that a huge amount of inventions and ideas have come out of America. or are you going to tell me that the phonograph was a British idea and the airplane was invented by a Frenchman?

[Dauphin]

Why do you assume I was talking about you? Don't be paranoid.

it never ceases to amaze me how so many obnoxious people fail to regard anything that comes out of America

I agree.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
Why do you assume I was talking about you? Don't be paranoid.

Well if you don't use quotes, it can be a little hard to tell sometimes.

[Ironikinit]

I've seen some howlers on these boards, but Walt Whitman the Civil War photographer and the Lumiere bros.' video camera may just top them all.

In case anyone was curious, Whitman was a nurse during the ACW. The Lumiere brothers used chemical means, not magnetic tape... I would suppose that the video camera came along with, oh I dunno, maybe TELEVISION.

Anyway, yanks have plenty of inventions and scientific developments and the Nobels to show for it. Plus the culture doesn't put me to sleep. The rest of the world, IMVHO, often SCREWS UP American cultural developments, such as comic books, rock and roll, or pulp fiction by combining them with high art or middlebrow pretense... and then we yanks make the collosal mistake of imitating the imitation.

SEE ALSO: The Monkees.

I really am looking forward to seeing some pasty northern European kids figure out how to sell hip hop back to America, though.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Ironikinit

I really am looking forward to seeing some pasty northern European kids figure out how to sell hip hop back to America, though.

I think one of the reasons that American culture has a terrible reputation is that all people outside the USA see is Baywatch, Survivor, and assorted other garbage. True, many Americans spend their time watching that trash, but it's not all there is to know about America. Just like watching Absolutely Fabulous (which is funny as hell, don't get me wrong) isn't going to give you a comprehensive understanding of British culture.

-Arrian

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Willem


Well if you don't use quotes, it can be a little hard to tell sometimes.

It was a general commentary on the whole issue of arguing over who invented what, not directed to or precipated by a single persons comment.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Arrian

Just like watching Absolutely Fabulous (which is funny as hell, don't get me wrong)

That programme is crap IMHO.

Why do the crap things of Britain get exported so easily. Look at Benny Hill, Teletubbies, Spice Girls etc All considered tripe in the UK but big hits abroad.