Expansion Pack Civs Explained: Portuguese

[JayKay]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
It's a Civ2 scenario. You guys play/played Civ2, right?

I have Civ I, CivNet, Civ 2 MGE, Civ ToT, CTP, SMAC, FreeCiv, Europa Universalis, Civ 3, MOO, MOO2 and MOM! I think i pretty much have almost everything even near Civilization!

Never played that scenario though (i don't usually have patience to download all the scenarios available for Civ 2 - there's just too many of them and sometimes there not that good)! But i just love to play scenarios (when they are well designed)! What's the story of that one? Where can i get it?

But now that i have Civ 3, i don't think i'll have time to play that one (at least not in the next centurys )! But i'll give it a try!
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Portugal
Nation of: Magellan's (from Magellan's Expedition);
Vasco da Gama (Discoverer of the Maritime path to India);
and Pedro Álvares Cabral (Discoverer of Brazil in 1500)

[Jay Bee]

Originally posted by JayKay
Never played that scenario though (i don't usually have patience to download all the scenarios available for Civ 2 - there's just too many and sometimes there not that good)

Sorry for the inmodesty but Alba is relatively well known. I would even say it's very well known What kind of scenarios have you downloaded?

But i just love to play scenarios (when they are well designed)! What's the story of that one?

I bet all you Portuguese friends would like it

Where can i get it?

Guess There a few other goodies for you in that page, I told you already!

But now that i have Civ 3, i don't think i'll have time to play that one (at least not in the next centurys )!

But i'll give it a try!

Did yo ever try the other one I suggested a couple weeks ago?

[JayKay]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
I bet all you Portuguese friends would like it

So...i guess you aren't going to give any clues, right?

Guess There a few other goodies for you in that page, I told you already!

ohh...ok...i thought it was somewhere else!

Don't you have Civ 3 yet?

Did yo ever try the other one I suggested a couple weeks ago?

I downloaded it, but i didn't tried it yet!

It ain't easy to work (I have two jobs) and study at night, and still have time to play, you know!

But i'm sure i'll try it one of these days!
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Portugal
Nation of: Magellan's (from Magellan's Expedition);
Vasco da Gama (Discoverer of the Maritime path to India);
and Pedro Álvares Cabral (Discoverer of Brazil in 1500)

[Jay Bee]

Originally posted by JayKay
So...i guess you aren't going to give any clues, right?

The title says it all

Don't you have Civ 3 yet?

I do but, between you and me, I do not find it as exciting as Civ and Civ2 were

But i'm sure i'll try it one of these days!

Be sure you do

[Zealot]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
I do but, between you and me, I do not find it as exciting as Civ and Civ2 were

That makes two of us....
That interface sure isn't helping!

[JayKay]

Originally posted by Zealot


That makes two of us....
That interface sure isn't helping!

Originally posted by Jay Bee

I do but, between you and me, I do not find it as exciting as Civ and Civ2 were

And that makes three of us

Well....i do have to agree with you! It seems that i'm getting a little tired of the game and it's new yet! That didn't happened to me in Civ 2! I'm not sure why it is, but Civ 3 isn't as addicting as Civ 2! Really don't know why!

But until a get tired, i don't think i'll play much of anything else! (mostly because of the little time i have to play)!
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Portugal
Nation of: Magellan's (from Magellan's Expedition);
Vasco da Gama (Discoverer of the Maritime path to India);
and Pedro Álvares Cabral (Discoverer of Brazil in 1500)

[PGM]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
Have any of you guys ever played 'Alba de América'?

Not for a long time, but yes, it's very nice. I also enjoyed the Fascist patch, some of Harlan's scenarios and Red Front - ww2.

Originally posted by Jay Bee
You guys play/played Civ2, right?

No, I was just waiting for you to show me how.

[Jay Bee]

PGM, if you take the latter sentence out of the context in which it was said, of course it makes no sense

[Itoi]

A special unit for portugal could be the one wish we have defeated the spanish in the batalha battle: we were few without horses and we defeated the spanish chilvary. I dont remenber the name of the commander tha gave us the victory but i remenber the square tactic!!!

So we could make a land unit with sword that could be stronger, or doesnt have energy bar(it always full) because we were very few .

[Zealot]

Originally posted by Itoi
A special unit for portugal could be the one wish we have defeated the spanish in the batalha battle: we were few without horses and we defeated the spanish chilvary. I dont remenber the name of the commander tha gave us the victory but i remenber the square tactic!!!

It was Nuno Álvares Pereira. And it was on Aljubarrota, not Batalha.

Originally posted by Itoi
So we could make a land unit with sword that (...) doesnt have energy bar(it always full) because we were very few .

You mean an invincible unit?

[Jay Bee]

Originally posted by Zealot
It was Nuno Álvares Pereira. And it was on Aljubarrota, not Batalha.

And it was the Castilians, not the Spanish

[Zealot]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
And it was the Castilians, not the Spanish

Whatever!
They're all Spaniards to us!

[Locutus]

Zealot,
You wanted me to look at your thread and tell you what's still missing? Well, for one thing on-topic disccussion Why are you guys debating whether or not Portugal deserves to be in? They're in the top 15 of the XPC poll, that's all the reason we need for having them in (I don't care if your name is Luxembourg, if you're in the top 15, you're in the top 15)...

I think the list of Portuguese city names is awfully short: I mean come on, 16 cities? You're country is 2.5 times larger than mine and I had had a time restraining myself from not suggestion over 100 cities for the Dutch

An overview of Portuguese history would be very useful as well, for the civilipedia and to inform infidels like me who don't know jack about Portugal and it's - no doubt glorious - past

BTW, I personally prefer local names over English ones, so Joao instead of John (right?) and Lisboa instead of Lisbon, but that's just my opinion...

[Martinus]

I have a simple and neat idea about Portugal CSU. Let's name it Caravel. We could change the non-unique unit to be named "Sail" or something like that (like in Civ2), while retaining Caravel as a special unit for Portugese. After all it became most famous under the Portugese explorers and the name, IIRC, comes from a Portugese word meaning "wood" (is it "carvalho"? sorry for possible mistake )

[Zealot]

Originally posted by Locutus
I think the list of Portuguese city names is awfully short: I mean come on, 16 cities? You're country is 2.5 times larger than mine and I had had a time restraining myself from not suggestion over 100 cities for the Dutch

Pure time shortage.

Originally posted by Locutus An overview of Portuguese history would be very useful as well, for the civilipedia and to inform infidels like me who don't know jack about Portugal and it's - no doubt glorious - past

Pure lack of time.

Originally posted by Locutus
BTW, I personally prefer local names over English ones, so Joao instead of John (right?) and Lisboa instead of Lisbon, but that's just my opinion...

Yes, it's João! Very good! (I'm impressed! Really!)
And that is also my opinion, but it is not all that important. But it would be nice.
Thank you for your participation, Locutus.

Originally posted by Martinus I have a simple and neat idea about Portugal CSU. Let's name it Caravel.

That was also Itoi's idea, but he didn't play the game yet. And I think you didn't too.
Although Caravels were pretty used by the Portuguese, in the game that UU wouldn't make the play any fun! Because:
1. Your unique unit must have its first military victory in order to that civilization enter its golden age;
2. Caravels aren't properly military units;
3. You don't need boats to trade resources in Civ 3 like you need in real life!

But that's not a very big problem anymore. Because if Portugal was discovering Brazil, and trading by sea from India and China and Japan, they were also fighting in North Africa, in order to monopolize the big trading cities that there was there.

In those battles, the King of Portugal had the support of an "Order of Christ". They were Knights, that were former Templars, and had the support of the "Church". It's all in the link I posted above.

Oh, and yes, it's "carvalho" (you guys are making me one happy portuguese! how did you learn this things?)