Why Hungary SHOULD be included in the expansion pack.

[MagyarCrusader]

To a certain extent I agree with what OneFootintheGrave said. However back then, I seriously doubt it was refered to as "Hungarian-Croat Empire". For one thing, it was a Kingdom established by Stephen I and sanctioned by the pope. Before the 1800s, rulers of Europe could give a crap about nationality and nationalism, as Latin was the official language of every country and the church was the most important aspect of life. Calling the country a Hungarian-Croat empire is taking. a modern and patriotic look at history. Besides, Hungarian nobles gave the Hungarian crown to the Hapsburgs after Mohács, similar to the Croats giving their crown to the Hungarian king. However, history does not refer to the Austrian empire as being the "Austro-Hungarian Empire" at this point just because they share the same ruler. It was a formal and peaceful annexation. The Austrian Empire didn't become the Austro-Hungarian empire until compromises were made for the Hungarians to have an independent self governing body. This never happened for the Croatians. However, Croatians were the only people who lived in historic Hungary who actually had their own country before Hungary was established, while Hungarian nobles governed across the whole country, including parts that today are under foreign occupation, Croatian nobles governed over most of modern day Croatia because their people were established before they became a part of Hungary, and Hungarians never settled there. Another "interesting" point, according to censuses in the 1900s, Hungarian communities, (whether they made up the majority or minority of the region) existed throughout the entire country, including the parts taken by Czechoslovakia, Serbia and Romania, but there were practically none in Croatia...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by MagyarCrusader

You men "Eger" correct? Or is Edgar the British name for it? Anyway, an incredible battle took place there in 1552 that certainly is worth mentioning. The commander of Eger Castle, Istán Dobó with only 2 thousands troops repelled the Ottoman force of 150 thousand. And why do the Poles say they fought the Turks alone?

Edgar is the English spelling for the name Eger. You can find numerious examples of where people have changed historical names to fit the local dialect.

[Deathwalker]

Sorry you’re right it's Egar not Edgar. My ancestor was Istán Dobó, My name's Jason Dobó. I've even been to the castle and the caretaker took us on a tour though the unopened tunnels and rooms within the castle. Though that was some years ago.

Sorry forgot one thing, the Magyars (Hungary) say they are desended from the Huns and look what they achieved. So they should be in the game.

[MagyarCrusader]

Oh man! That's awesome!