The KOREAN Civilization: Things Every Civ Player Should Know

[Transcend]

Communists do twist history. At least they said that South Koreans and Americans started the Korean War. A friend of mine told me that was what he learned back in the High School, but not until he came into the States did he know the truth.

[YefeiPi]

Oh like democracy don't? What does American textbooks say about the Korean war?

[Transcend]

Originally posted by YefeiPi
Oh like democracy don't? What does American textbooks say about the Korean war?

"MacArthur had his butt kicked by the Chinese because of his own arrogance."

American history books usually overemphasize their own achievements while ignoring others(British, Soviets). But they don't twist facts beyond recognition except for people with extreme agendas.

Reading German history books about WWII can probably give you the best account. It's truly remarkable how they handled that infamous history of their own.

[Saint Marcus]

Communists do twist history.

Thank you

Reading German history books about WWII can probably give you the best account. It's truly remarkable how they handled that infamous history of their own.

True indeed. I've read a few...a lot more balanced than American or French ones

[YefeiPi]

Communists do twist history.

Don't government of all types twist history? Why point out communism in particular? I mean Japan is no communist country, but they tried to hide their embarassing military history by revising their history textbooks. What does that make them? I mean communist country do not twist history any more than other types of government, can you say democracy is not?

[Saint Marcus]

I mean communist country do not twist history any more than other types of government

Yes they do! In Russia, Trotski was completely erased from history to give just one example. He was even cut out of pictures of him with Lenin, to make it seem he never really existed.

[Transcend]

Originally posted by YefeiPi


Don't government of all types twist history? Why point out communism in particular? I mean Japan is no communist country, but they tried to hide their embarassing military history by revising their history textbooks. What does that make them? I mean communist country do not twist history any more than other types of government, can you say democracy is not?

I was under the impression that you didn't think Communists were twisting history. Now I think we are on the same page. All nations do twist histories, but there is also the question how much they spin? In this aspect, Communists are the master of spin doctors.

[Transcend]

YiFeiPi, I understand that you feel greatly attached to China. But you should never confuse patriotism with the love for a party. The Chinese Communist Party does not represent China despite its claim, and fact is that this party has committed tremendous crime and caused massive suffering against Chinese people. They are only in power because some of their members recognized the follies of the past and tried to be more considerate to the people.

[YefeiPi]

However, western manipulation is also very well known. I just can't stand the fact that Mark L is pointing out communism in particular, not that I myself is a communist or anything.

[Transcend]

Originally posted by YefeiPi
However, western manipulation is also very well known. I just can't stand the fact that Mark L is pointing out communism in particular, not that I myself is a communist or anything.

I agree that Mark L. is a Eurocentrist ***.

[Inverse Icarus]

Mark L:
the second you mentioned "the reds to the north" and lumped Korea together, you lost all your credibility.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Transcend


"MacArthur had his butt kicked by the Chinese because of his own arrogance."

MacArthur wanted to nuke the entire Yellow River, as a message to all the reds

[Inverse Icarus]

also, i will agree that american ethnocentricism (heh, american ethnicity ) is all over our history books, and yes, we make our enemies in war out to be the bad guys, who we HAD to fight, and HAD to kill.

it's getting a bit different now, we are actualy allowed to question the books.

lovely arguments about how we shouldn't have went to Vietnam in the first place.

McCarthy-ism made communists out to be godless scumbags who oppose everything America stands for, in the eyes of the American people, but they really weren't.

also, as a kicker to this post, i read a local paper recenty, and they asked a question to the locals, about China hosting the olympics and their human rights violations.

this one guy, not a real good looker, or thinker for that matter had this to say.

"China should not host the olympics because they are Communist. The olympics are all about all the nations of the world comming together in peace and competing. Communists do not want peace. They want to tear the world apart."

what a lamer.

Marx wrote that Socialism should be a "world-wide revolution" and that the earth should unite under one flag.

[Skanky Burns]

Communism is good. I think it would be nice if a country actually tried it out

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by UberKruX

lovely arguments about how we shouldn't have went to Vietnam in the first place.

Monday morning quarterbacks are always better than just before game time Sunday morning.

McCarthy-ism made communists out to be godless scumbags who oppose everything America stands for, in the eyes of the American people,

They do oppose what we stand for.

but they really weren't.

You have not live long enough to make that statement. Or did you live in the fifty.

this one guy, not a real good looker, or thinker for that matter had this to say.

What does it matter what he look like. He has a opinion that you don't agree with that is all.

"China should not host the olympics because they are Communist. The olympics are all about all the nations of the world comming together in peace and competing. Communists do not want peace. They want to tear the world apart."

Do you realize how many Soviet Generals wanted to start a war with us over the years? And China Top General wrote a few month ago that they should used their Nuc. against us now.