Expansion Pack Civs (Part 3): Just one more...

[jdd2007]

well well well ... the poles get more and more votes, yet the ISRAELIS havent gotten anything.

[DZASKUL]

Poles +20 (POLAND)

[ranskaldan]

i'm changing my votes:
(oldvote+change=newvotes)

Arabs - 20+0=20
Turks/Ottomans - 16+4=20
Spanish - 14 -14=0
Celts - 11+9=20
Phoenicians/Carthaginians - 11-1=10
Dutch - 11-6=5
Portuguese - 11-6=5
Poles - 11+9=20
Siamese - 11+9=20
Koreans - 11 +9=20
Ethiopians - 11-11=0
Vikings - 11-11=0
Magyars - 11+9=20

[JellyDonut]

Poles are skyrocketing
Once it gets to the top 16, maybe Gramphos will post a Pole about them!

(Sorry, had to get that pun off my chest )

[Ubik]

Re: Re: Minoan and Philistean

Originally posted by Internationalist


Unit: Why not be original and give them a sea transport with 1-2 more movement and unit cargo?
Was Ierapetra called Ierapytna back then, or is it one more case of foreign language castration of words?
Cities: you could add some modern names also like Chania,Handakas, etc.
On The Fun Part, Special unit : Minotaur

LOL

"Foreign language castration" That's funny, ok! No, Ierapetra was called Ierapytna back then. Olus is the modern Elounda. Lato is the current Agios Nikolaos. Malia is... Malia Tylisos, Gortys kai Itanos are still standing (weel, ok, modernized a bit but under the same names).
The rest didn't make it to the modern times....

About Chania, Iraklion (Handakas) etc. - nah, they are modern towns, established in the Byzantine era or later, why should they be "Minoan"?


about the Minotaur... now, that would be completely ridiculous... what is this patrioti, "Age of Myths"

[vasyl]

Next vote

Here is next set of my points:

Magyar/Hungarians +5
Byzantines -10
Koreans -20

Greetings everyone!

[jdd2007]

Byzantines -10

Yay!!! SOMEONE around here has some sense!!!

[Stefu]

YES! YES! Poles are rapidly gaining on Polynesians, and come the next edit, the Polynesians will surely be GONE! GONE WITH THE WIND! BWAHAHAHAHA! I love you, Poland!

[jdd2007]

-20 polynesians
+13 dutch i give up
+ 7 malians

[jdd2007]

i just realized it but im a WARLORD!!! i dont think the last post put me up, but that was when i first noticed it. im SO proud of myself.

[eXimius]

Poles 20
Spanish 20
Mongols 20
Vikings 20
Arabs 20
Inca 20
Magyars 20
Portugese 20

[jdd2007]

again- where IS locutus???

[Alexander I]

This isn't a vote (I've already gone); it's just my list of a possible Firaxis-mentality 16-civ expansion pack.

It would include, of course, all the civs taken out from Civ2.

Civ, Leader, Unit, Capital

Mongols - Genghis Khan - Mangudai - Karakorum
Spanish - Isabella - War Galleon/Armada - Madrid
Vikings - Cnut the Great - Berserk or Longship - Trondheim
Celts - Boadicea - Woad Raider - La Tene
Sioux - Sitting Bull - Brave (if not Iroquois) - Little Big Horn
Phoenicians - Hiram - Quinquireme/Pentekonter - Tyre
(Carthaginian cities and leaders included in this civ)

Then other additional civs.

Arabs - Saladin - Xebec - Mecca
Inca - Atahualpa - War Party? - Cuzco
Turks - Suleiman - Janissary - Baghdad
Maya - Chaan Muan? - Plumed Archer - Chichen Itza
Israelites - David - Slinger or Zealot - Jerusalem
Portuguese - John or Henry the Navigator - Carrack/Galley - Lisbon
Dutch - William of Orange - Merchantman/Fluyt - Amsterdam
Polish - Jan Sobieski - Winged Hussar - Warsaw
Ethiopians - Sheba - Camel Rider - Aksum
Koreans - ? - Turtle Ship - Seoul?

Does this seem like a reasonable pack?

[Locutus]

Update: 164 votes (up to eXimius), 22966 points.

The Polish indeed pushed the Polynesians out of the top 16; they are now #14, 10 places higher than a week ago or so... Personally, I'm not sure if I'm extremely happy with this development; not that I dislike the Polish (heck, I voted for them myself!) but as it is, half the civs from the top 16 are European, while historically very important areas such as Oceania (Polynesians, Aborigines, Javans - okay, maybe not extremely important historically but the area still covers something like 1/3th (if not more) of the earth's surface!), South East Asia (Siam, Annam, Khmer) and sub-Saharan Africa (Mali, Ghana, Zimbabwe - not the pathetic Zulu!) are not represented at all! As much as I like the Polish, the Portuguese and the Byzantines, I would personally be more than happy to trade them in for the Polynesians, the Mali and the Khmer. Oh well, eventually it's up to Firaxis anyway...

Ubik,
I apologize, I made a mistake: you didn't have 100 points left, you voted with 100 points, meaning you only have 60 points left. My mistake... So unfortunately I can only change Numides to Nubians, the rest of your vote I had to ignore. Sorry for that... but feel free to post a new update.

Anunikoba,
Was that an actual vote for the Antarticans or just a sarcastic remark or something? The smiley (and common sense) suggests the second so I didn't count it as a vote but I could change that if you really want to...

Triped,
You have 140 points left.

MarsJan,
You have 140 points left.

Kalbarczyk,
The Chinese are already in Civ3, no need to vote for them. So you have 60 (unassigned) + 20 (Chinese) = 80 points left.

LoD,
You now have 60 - 20 = 40 points left.

Chris Horscroft,
Actually, it were the Khmer who build Angkor Wat and the other jungle temples in Cambodia. The Siam were also an important civ from that region but not quite the same as the Khmer (IIRC they were often at war with each other though). I left your vote for the Siam as it is but let me know if I should change it to Khmer and/or if you wish to 'spend' those last 10 points...

jdd2007,
You already gave 20 points to the Poles in an earlier update, so I have to ignore that +3 vote. I hope I processed your updates properly: I removed your 20 point vote for the Polynesians, added 10 points to the Dutch and added a 7 point vote to the Mali. This means you have 3 points left. Let me know if I did it wrong though and/or if you'd like to spend those 3 points after all...

Also: relax, give me some time! I don't plan on updating the ranking every single day. I know you would all love that but it's a fairly time-consuming process and I simply don't have that much time (and even if I did have it, I wouldn't spend it all on this one thread!). I will usually wait until 15-20 people voted or until a day or 2, 3 has passed (whichever comes later).

Henryk Przerwa/almaryk/bartuk/Maveus/DZASKUL,
You all have 140 points left.

vasyl,
You can't give negative points to civs so I had to ignore your votes for the Byzantines and the Koreans. If you see people giving negative points that's because they gave points to those civs earlier and have decided to retract those votes (as described in the rules).

ranskaldan,
Your 'oldvote' didn't quite correspond with what I had in my records about your old vote (no mention of Mongols or Incas while you did for for them, 11 points for Ethiopians while you gave them 5 points earlier, etc) but since the 'newvote' nicely added up to 160 and doesn't break the rules I just assumed that that is your final vote.
Edit: Just noticed that you edited your original vote, that caused the inconsistencies. Like I already said at least 3 times earlier: don't edit your vote but instead post a new one, even if it's less than an hour later...

[Ubik]

New Votes

Alright, errare humanum est

My final votes (the 60 left) are:

+20 Carthagenian/Phoenician
+20 Minoan
+20 Arabs