CivIII Animated leader-Germans

[Alexander I]

Who will be the animated leader for the Germans in CivIII? Tell us what you think!

[Alex 14]

Adolf Hitler.

[Adagio]

I don't really know any of them, except for Adolf...and if it becomes Adolf, the Germans won't suvive one single game

[Solver]

If it will be Hitler, I'll trash the Germans. Fu*kitler was the worst person ever. I also have neverplayed Russians in Civ, because of their leader being Stalin (and BTW, that was USSR, not Russia).

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Solver
, because of their leader being Stalin (and BTW, that was USSR, not Russia).

Good point Solver!!

I am almost certain it will not be Hitler. The Germans had great thinkers and statesmen, I think it will be someone from them.

[Solver]

Yes, Barbarossa was just a conqueror, not so evil as Hitler, for example.
I don't know why was the Russians called Russians in Civ. They had cities like Minsk, Riga, Kiev, which are not Russian, but were Soviet at those times. And, Stalin was a Soviet ruler.

[Rasputin]

Apart from his Racial Hatred, I quite liked the way Hitler got power over the Germans and rose to become a great leader. If he hadnt been mad he may have ended up winning the war and we would all be typing in German now.....

[Al'Kimiya]

Besides... Hitler was Austrian, not German.

[Kassiopeia]

Hopefully not Chancellor Bismarck, he was the one who allowed Adolf to bcome the chancellor. He supported him and his ideals IMHO, as what I could determine with that history book at school. It will be Frederick the Great.

[Rasputin]

perhaps they should use mutiple leaders to give players a choose. I never use the leader they propose any way and always add my own name isntead....

[Martinus]

Originally posted by kassiopeia
Hopefully not Chancellor Bismarck, he was the one who allowed Adolf to bcome the chancellor. He supported him and his ideals IMHO, as what I could determine with that history book at school. It will be Frederick the Great.

Well, it must have been a great history book, since Hitler was born in 1889 and Bismarck died in 1898 . I think you may be confusing him with Hindenburg.

But I also think it should be one of the Fredericks - actually, I would opt for Barbarossa, as leaders such as Frederick the Great (or Maria Theresa for that matter) did not rule Germany but Prussia (and Austria) respectively.

[Solver]

Then it just becomes the question of what was the country name at that time.

[Eagle one]

Just the facts

Marie Theresia was empress of Austria. So she cannot be the leader of the Germans.

But it's true that Hitler was born in Austria (1889 in Braunau). After he has failed to study in Vienna (Austria) he went to Germany (1913 Munich).

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Solver
Then it just becomes the question of what was the country name at that time.

The problem with Germany as a civilization is that there was no such country for the most time.

At first at least there was the Holy Roman Empire, so the Emperor may be considered such a ruler - and Barbarossa was Emperor.

But after that it degenerated. And consider that Maria Theresa and Frederick the Great ruled during the same time - one in Prussia and one in Austria, with dozens of other German states, like Bavaria, Saxony or Pfalz ruled by independent rulers.

So, if we choose a ruler from before the unification of Germany in late 19th century, it should be some Emperor (like Otto, Barbarossa or the Fowler).

[Solver]

Well, Israel also appeared in 20th century, but Jews have been a lognway before it.