AU302: One City - Strategy, Spoilers and Comments

[CorpusScorpius]

Originally posted by Wizard55


Basically (IMHO) the AI's trade with each other quickly.So if two AI's research different techs, you can bet that they all will have them when the research is done. If you don't keep the AI's broke they will definitely fly right by you.

I had forgot about the possibility the AI may have been researching different paths

when one makes contact w/Celts English Rome does anyone withold contact from India/Korea.......I think I wll try this strategy next

Monarch Space Race Defeat.........Couldnt keep upw/ AI & didnt have any money Gandhi Won

[Wizard55]

My 5th try at OCC and I finally won.
I played Monarch Level, I was the Persians.

It was only culural Victory, but a victory non the less.
I was within 2 space parts of winning the Space Race, but so was India. It would have been close.

I don't think you could have won this game if you didn't move to the coast(IMHO)
I had fun playing and learned at lot about dealing with the AI when you don't have an army to back you up. It was quite interesting.
Sometimes you need to have the taste of victory from a war, so I will go back to regular CIV for now.

Enjoyed the Challenge Dom. Thanks

[Wizard55]

the actual time I spent on the game was about 7 Hrs. I left the game running during phone calls and taking notes about the game.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by BigDork
Too bad my 30+ slaves couldn't attack. I dont' see anything wrong with slapping some explosives on them and hurdling them at the enemy ...
BigD

Hey, isn't that called terrorism according to the new Bush'ism textbook? Nice try anyway!

[Nor Me]

Originally posted by CorpusScorpius
when one makes contact w/Celts English Rome does anyone withold contact from India/Korea.......I think I wll try this strategy next

Yes. It helps to build the Lighthouse so that other civs don't have it.
The other problem is that they will demand contact off you. In my game I was at war with the other continent and didn't make peace until they had Astronomy.
If an Indian or Korean superpower demanded one, you might be forced to give in.

[BigDork]

Originally posted by Nor Me
The other problem is that they will demand contact off you. In my game I was at war with the other continent and didn't make peace until they had Astronomy.
If an Indian or Korean superpower demanded one, you might be forced to give in.

I had this problem in my last game. About all you can do is give in and hope you'll be able to sell the rest of your contacts on your turn. Well, that or go to war.

BigD

[DaveMcW]

The short version:

I choose the Persians on Regent difficulty, playing PTW 1.21. My immortal hordes met less resistance than expected, I guess I've been playing deity too long!

[DaveMcW]

The long version:

4000 BC: Move setter south
3950 BC: Persepolis founded
3700 BC: Warrior
3550 BC: Empty hut
3500 BC: Pottery
3000 BC: Granary, Ceremonial Burial from hut
2900 BC: Warrior
2800 BC: Warrior
2750 BC: Empty hut
2710 BC: Worker
2630 BC: Worker
2950 BC: 25 gold from hut
2310 BC: Empty hut
2030 BC: Writing
1990 BC: Contact Korea, buy Warrior Code for Masonry and Pottery
1950 BC: Colossus
1790 BC: Temple
1700 BC: Barracks
1675 BC: Spearman
1650 BC: Spearman
1600 BC: Archer
1575 BC: Map Making, trade WM for Korea's TM
1550 BC: Galley
1500 BC: Galley
1450 BC: Galley
1425 BC: Archer
1400 BC: Archer
1375 BC: Archer
1350 BC: Archer, 25 gold from barb camp
1325 BC: Archer
1300 BC: Archer
1250 BC: Immortals, Contact India, trade Masonry for India's WM
1200 BC: Immortals
1150 BC: Immortals
1100 BC: Immortals, Literature, sell Literature for The Wheel and 63 gold
1050 BC: 25 gold from barb camp
975 BC: Declare war on Korea
900 BC: 25 gold from barb camp
825 BC: Golden age begins
730 BC: Great Lighthouse, 25 gold from barb camp
650 BC: Korea is now an OCC, I stay at war with 3 immortals in their borders to make sure they don't expand
630 BC: Contact Celts
570 BC: Contact Rome, buy contact with England, sell WM and Literature for 200 gold and WM
510 BC: 25 gold from barb camp
430 BC: Great Library, I turn science to zero but spend most of the money on Immortals upkeep
410 BC: Great Leader
390 BC: Immortals
370 BC: Immortals
350 BC: Immortals
330 BC: Immortals
310 BC: Immortals
290 BC: Immortals
270 BC: Immortals
250 BC: Immortals
230 BC: Immortals
210 BC: Immortals
190 BC: Immortals
170 BC: Immortals
150 BC: Immortals
130 BC: Immortals
110 BC: Immortals
90 BC: Immortals
70 BC: Immortals
50 BC: Immortals
30 BC: Immortals
10 BC: Immortals
10 AD: Immortals
30 AD: Immortals
50 AD: Immortals
70 AD: Immortals
90 AD: Immortals, refuse to give Rome contact with India, Rome declares war
110 AD: Immortals
130 AD: Immortals
150 AD: Immortals
170 AD: Immortals
190 AD: Immortals
210 AD: Immortals
230 AD: Immortals, Revolution
260 AD: Great Leader builds Marketplace
270 AD: Become a Republic
280 AD: India is now an OCC
290 AD: Galley
300 AD: Peace with Korea for 20 turns to reduce war weariness
310 AD: Galley

I am making 26 shields per turn in Republic, so I mine plains to get +30 shields and -4 food. When the food box runs low, I switch to +8 food and +15 shields. My army of slaves can convert all the improvements needed in one turn.

330 AD: Immortals
340 AD: Immortals
350 AD: Immortals, enter Middle Ages
360 AD: Immortals
370 AD: Immortals
380 AD: Immortals, begin invasion of Rome by taking out their iron
390 AD: Galley
400 AD: Immortals
410 AD: Galley
430 AD: Immortals
450 AD: Immortals
470 AD: Immortals
480 AD: Immortals
490 AD: Immortals
500 AD: Immortals
510 AD: Immortals
520 AD: Immortals
530 AD: Immortals, refuse to give England contact with India, England backs down
540 AD: Immortals
550 AD: Immortals
570 AD: Immortals
590 AD: Immortals
600 AD: Immortals
610 AD: Immortals, Great Leader
620 AD: Immortals, Rome has 2 cities left but their tundra city is too far away to bother with right now
630 AD: Immortals, declare war on the Celts
640 AD: Immortals
650 AD: Immortals
660 AD: Immortals
670 AD: Immortals
680 AD: Great Leader builds Harbor
700 AD: Immortals, peace with India for 20 turns to reduce war weariness
720 AD: Immortals
730 AD: Immortals
740 AD: Immortals
750 AD: Immortals
760 AD: Immortals
770 AD: Immortals, Celts are now an OCC
780 AD: Immortals
790 AD: Immortals
800 AD: Immortals
810 AD: Immortals, declare war on England

England is the first civ with Feudalism, and I take heavy losses against pikemen and med inf before getting their iron.

830 AD: Library
850 AD: Immortals, take out the English iron
860 AD: Immortals, peace with Celts for 20 turns to reduce war weariness
870 AD: Immortals
880 AD: Immortals
890 AD: Immortals
900 AD: Immortals
910 AD: Immortals, raze the town India built during the peace treaty
920 AD: Immortals
930 AD: Immortals
940 AD: Immortals
970 AD: Great Leader
980 AD: Courthouse, Rome is now an OCC
1000 AD: Galley
1010 AD: Galley
1020 AD: Galley
1030 AD: Galley, England is now an OCC

I surround each capitol with 8 units and disband the rest. Then I sign peace treaties and ROPs to eliminate war weariness for good.
The rest of the game is a beeline for Sanitation to bring my score up.

1040 AD: Galley
1050 AD: Galley
1060 AD: Galley
1070 AD: Galley, Theology
1080 AD: Galley
1100 AD: Temple
1160 AD: Cathedral
1210 AD: Coliseum
1230 AD: Education
1250 AD: University
1310 AD: Astronomy
1325 AD: Copernicus's Observatory
1370 AD: Banking
1375 AD: Bank
1430 AD: Invention
1485 AD: Gunpowder
1560 AD: Chemistry
1640 AD: Physics
1725 AD: Theory of Gravity
1730 AD: Newton's University
1766 AD: Magnetism
1790 AD: Metallurgy, free Medicine
1822 AD: Sanitation
1824 AD: Hospital
1872 AD: Steam Power
1936 AD: Electricity
1958 AD: Scientific Method
1963 AD: Theory of Evolution, Atomic Theory, Electronics
1973 AD: Industrialization
1981 AD: The Corporation
1986 AD: Stock Exchange
1999 AD: Refining
2016 AD: Steel
2033 AD: Replaceable Parts
2042 AD: Refuse to give England contact with India, England declares war but never fires a shot
2050 AD: Histographic victory

Here is the 2049 AD save:

[Nor Me]

Impressive , if boring.

410 BC: Great Leader
...
260 AD: Great Leader builds Marketplace
...
680 AD: Great Leader builds Harbor

This at least shows focus. What was the harbour for anyway? Or the courthouse?

[BigDork]

Dave...

Damn, I'm impressed. I didn't think anyone could pull off a victory that way.

BigD

[Dominae]

HOLY CRAP! Good job DaveMcW!

I should have figured you were serious about the Histographic thing. I just assumed it was not possible. Surrounding the capitals after each opponent was reduced to an OCC, then signing ROPs was brilliant.

A boring, fringe-type of game, but one that is impressive nonetheless. I'm glad to have seen it done.




Dominae

[Dominae]

Just one question, DaveMcW: why all the Colonies?


Dominae

[BigDork]

Yeah, plus 20 hours for an OCC just might be a record if he played the whole time and didn't let it sit there too much.

BigD

[CorpusScorpius]

BRAVO DaveMcW....IMPRESSIVE...... Are the colonies the result of destroying all those cities?(workes Galore) Where are the Barbarians?

[BigDork]

Originally posted by CorpusScorpius
Where are the Barbarians?

I know in my game when I had a whole bunch of extra workers I used outposts to push back the fog so that there were fewer barbs. Not sure if Dave did this or not though.

BigD