AU208: Total Eternal Forever War - Reports and Comments

[Arrian]

can cope with Mounted warriors, they are easy to kill but Legionaries need lots of catapults to stop them doing damage and they need tech.

So I had to archer rush Rome as fast as possible.

That is almost exactly what went through my mind.

At one point I thought I might've made a mistake focusing so much on Rome, when the Iroquois started busting out with their MWs. But happily Immortals + spearmen + vastly superior tactics trump Mounted Warriors.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

The other thing I'm wondering about is:

Despotism -> Republic -> Communism

If I can hold off contact until I get a large jump from the Great Library while hording cash and then be able to steal tech with it later on.

So switch to Republic, use it as long as you can, then switch to Monarchy? That's a helluva gamble as a non-religious civ.

-Arrian

[vmxa1]

GL in the open, a very scary situation. Their fate is often death, especially when they are created on a defensive battle.

[Konquest02]

Originally posted by vmxa1
GL in the open, a very scary situation. Their fate is often death, especially when they are created on a defensive battle.

It wasn't in the open, it's defender (who just created it) got defeated on the very same turn... :sob:

[BigDork]

Hi all...

I had a close call with my GL as well. As I was returning my GL from the frontline where he was created an Iroquios mw appeared outta the fog but was 1 square short of getting him. That's what I get for not defending them. Not that it mattered. I ended up making an army out of him that got it's butt kicked severly.

BigD

[alexman]

I'm having fun reading your stories, everyone. Good job!

By the way, sorry for any duplication of AU 401. I still have not played, or even seen AARs from that game.

[Nakar Gabab]

Originally posted by Arrian
Hmm... I wonder if I destroyed my enemies too quickly.

Once I knocked out Rome (the city, not the civ) and Salamanca, I was facing archers & spearmen... against my vet/elite immortals. Perhaps I should have been a tad slower about picking them apart.

You're kidding, right? You can't kill those dirty little SOBs fast enough. 3300 and 3000 BC was too good for 'em.

I shudder to think what would've happened if they'd been homing in on me from 3000 BC had those rushes failed, but I was fairly confident that they wouldn't.

Would've been hairier if I hadn't lost the first game as China.

[BigDork]

Alexman...

You did a great job on this map. I haven't lost so bad in a while. And I haven't had so much fun losing.

BigD

[Arrian]

You're kidding, right? You can't kill those dirty little SOBs fast enough.

Nope, I'm not kidding. Once you've broken their backs, it is quite doable to fight a "lazy war" which actually isn't lazy at all. It's all about Leader farming. Using elite units to destroy the drips and drabs of AI units coming at you - usually regular archers. It requires patience, though, and in a normal SP game, it also hampers your ability to switch over to republic/demo. But in this game, there is no peace, so if an opponent poses no threat whatsoever but offers a potential benifit like Leader generation, it may be best to keep them alive (Theseus' old "Care & Feeding of Neighboring civs").

-Arrian

[vmxa1]

That is basically what I was think in regards to Rome. Lettign them send in untis to give me a leader and a bunch of elites. Not sure about MW thought. I have not had them in any games in more than year. By that I mean that they were not close enough to deal with until late in the game.

[Dominae]

alexman: I especially like Great Britain!

Oh, and thanks a bunch for all that Saltpeter...

The English are basically toast in my game, and then it's on to the Indians and their precious Spices and Incense. Normally I would be calling it quits right now, but not being able to trade is making this game very interesting. That, and the fact that I own no significant Wonders other than Copernicus' and it's the end of the Medieval age.


Dominae

[BigDork]

Wow Dom, sounds like you are having a good game. I only hope in my next game I actually can capture at least 1 city.

BigD

[epics]

Hi,

I'm playing China, already eliminated Rome, now going for Iroquis. I think it was 2nd battle of me elit archer and he already got status of Robin Hood .
Now I'm wondering what to do with the leader.
1)Forbidden Palace in Rome
2)Piramids
3)Colossus
4)Army
5)Wait for the GL
6)Wait until I gain some town from Irq and then FrbPal.

Some suggestions?

[vmxa1]

It is a struggle, but I finally got Rome and have Iron. 4 leaders so far by 230BC. Made Pyrmid, 2 armies and FP.
I had to sit on those leaders until I had enough ciies to make the armies. I have Epic up as well.
Busted a lot of units an many towns. I now have some real attack units and can start in ernest.
Romans are not sending Legions, so they must not have iron any longer. I see one (iron), but no place to make a city right now.
I did no exploring and so discovered in 390 BC a hut just past my furs. I got a second settler out of it, now I have never had two, especially as a non expansionist. Three huts 2 settlers and 25 gold. I should have gotten a lotto ticket.
I am only getting in a few hours before bed, so it is slow going. I have no tech to even rush a wonder as I have no knowledge of any, that are not built. I am working on getting Lit, so I will hold any new leaders. They will be harder now that much of my offense will be with armies.

[Nor Me]

epics, Pyramids. You'll have to wait a long time to build the GL or FP and an army won't pay off for a long time.

Pyramids has the advantage of stopping any serious AI prebuilds for the Great Library: they can only use the 300 shields Oracle and Great Lighthouse and the Oracle is likely to be built long before Literature.


110AD so far and I've had 7 leaders. So that's Pyramids, army, Colossus, Great Library, FP, Hanging Gardens and an almost useless army. Most of my fighting is now swordsmen vs archers with the Heroic Epic.