AU208: Total Eternal Forever War - Reports and Comments

[Arrian]

Warriors, Swordsmen, Med Inf are, in fact, inferior units. Inferior to the other units being used by the AI at that point, though. Not so much compared to mine...

I got my butt kicked, plain and simple.

-Arrian

[alexman]

First of all, let me apologise to everyone who hates me right now.

A major complaint about the AI is that it is not effective in the mid-to-late game. So the plan was to make a map that remained challenging even after you had secured your home continent, but I didn't count on England's tiny island being so tough to invade. (I doubt anyone appreciated that as a dose of real history! )

I personally have been enjoying your stories, routing for the underdogs, and I'm still hoping someone will pull it off. Hopefully this AU course accomplished its goal, even if it was frustrating for some. I think we can all now appreciate the power of diplomacy. I saw some nice use of less popular elements of the game like colonies and bombard units, and of innovative combat tactics. And battling superior AI units is frustrating for sure, but it makes for some good deity training!

[Nor Me]

Like Dominae, I'm finding that while killing England is nice, it's not the whole solution.

I'm kicking myself for not aiming for a 20k cultural victory from the start. It's still likely to be my best shot at winning this though.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by alexman
...routing for the underdogs...

Yep. Them underdog humans have been getting routed pretty good.

[Dominae]

Originally posted by Nor Me
I'm kicking myself for not aiming for a 20k cultural victory from the start. It's still likely to be my best shot at winning this though.

I was thinking of that too, but my biggest Culture city only had about 4000 points when I stopped.

I'm rooting for ya, though, Nor Me (if only to show alexman that his scenario is not unbeatable, even at Emperor!).


Dominae

[Chemical Ollie]

I haven't read any spoilers yet, but this was not the kind of start I liked. Warrior rush as the Persians is not my type of game. I did a brief replay and found out I had no resources easily reachable either, even if they were close. How evil of you to give horses to the Iroquis and Iron to the Romans, Alexman!

If I try to play again, I will move down a step or two from emperor level and play as the archer rushing Germans.

6 minutes of gaming huh? Well, that's about what my family situation allows me, with kids who refuse to sleep untill 23.30 and wake up at 6.00.

I guess I'm not the only one having a tough time beating this map?

[Konquest02]

Keep on trying Olaf!

[badman]

Mmm I even failed (well not failed but I didn't even manage to beat the Romans) on Monarch. Now this game really ruined my self-confidence in Civ3.
Well, I'm a peaceniker.

[Konquest02]

I'm throwing the towel on that game too. I can hold up on my continent, but there is now way I can win this one, especially without coal (and I doubt there is any rubber on our island too... I won't catch up the bigger AIs (Egypt, America, India) but I have taken over my continent and this is a moral victory for me. I will come up with a "learned lessons" section a little bit later, but I discovered the beauty of trading with the AI to its death...

--Kon--

[vmxa1]

Well I intended to title this a tainted victory. This is because I played to around 1500AD and saw the others reports.
I knew I need to start over and play a differnt way. I would not have done what I did if I had not already knew that Iron and Horses were basically under the capitols. I also knew that I could only get saltpeter and coal and rubber by taking over England.
So this is what I proceed to do and it was working fine.
I got to around the late 1780's and the game crashed.
I could not get it to load any of the saves (it turns out that autosaves was enabled, I guess it is the default as I normall have it off).
So I burned them to a CD and took them to my other PC and no luck.
I installed PTW 1.21 and got it to play till 1794 and it bombs again. I can not seem to get past this point and I am too unhappy to try to back up farther today.
Maybe tomorrow I will take a shot at it.
I was in first place and I felt like I may be able to win. Here is a few pics.

[vmxa1]

Here it is 850AD, I had managed to get Oracle, Pyramids,HG,Leo's,Sistine,Adams,Hoover.
Oh I forgot Colos as well.
Capture LIghthouse or something from Enland.
Missed GL and TOE and some other good ones, but all in all not bad.
Since I busted out the Romans and Iroq ASAP, no leaders until 530AD. I see by my notes, I had SunTsu as well, it was the rushed with the second leader in 740.
I made an army with the first as nothing else was open.
FP was built from scratch in Salamanca.
Stuck the babs with a gpt deal for Printing Press and one for Republic, bought Music for 10 gold and then declared war. No more gpt's or any deals at all.

[vmxa1]

1350 and no more England.

[vmxa1]

1485 was a first, I caught two settlers under escort by a few calvs landing on my island. I have gotten a few in cities, but never more than one out in the open.
1660 I thought I was in good shape, but AI grabbed ToE and Suffage.
7th leader used on Hoover, the day I learn the tech.
1730 Infantry shows up from America.
1764 transports in use now by America.
1770 first DD shows up.
1778 America and Indian island city in range of arties now.
1782 bombers show up, but only three and I have an armada of 6 ships to grab the city that houses them. I am sure it is the only one in range and I have lots of worker to fix what little damage they can manage.
Oh Hammy has a batteship or I should say had.
It got to close to land and arty hammered it and a single Ironclad took off the last HP.
I intend to leave that city in case I could culture it and pound it in the mean time, but I can't wait as they are using it to bomb.

[vmxa1]

1784 some sabatoge and more in 1790? I thought you could not run any spies if you did not have an embassy?
I never built any as you can not if at war. Is it possible they can drop one in on you anyway or during the contact?
I skipped Demo and Espionage.

[vmxa1]

I expected that if I failed to get the UN, I would lose. I figured they may be able to get me with the spaceship, but probably not. I mean they will likely get a head start, unless I can make in roads on their land ( remains to be seen).
America could be the one as they may not have had a GA yet.
Given how bad the AI is about prebuilding and such, you could steal the launch.
Otherwise I think I would win as I have access to all he resources and lots of infantry. I know England has all you need to make tanks. I have the MA built and was making Armies to fill with MI/tanks or MA. Intending to get Pentagon and 4 party armies to break cities down and hold them after some friendly arty touches.