Did anyone...

[War4ever]

and more of the zone shows up, we have two dr.'s in the house now

[Ming]

I am surprised that we seem to be more active than the Civ III MP forums... that kind of sums it up

[War4ever]

well when a game is a flop with the consumers even though too many of us bought it, thus skewing the successs of the game, and the magazines pan it.....you know it sucks....

thankfully we have civ2 still....and although not raging anymore its still going strong in our group

[DrSpike]

Civ4 is a certainty IMO. It was a successful SP game, and the key point, as I have made several times around the forums, is that SP will always dominate a market such as the TBS market. So although I am certain of Civ4, I doubt it will be aimed at a MP audience, or even tweaked to make MP good after the SP release.

Civ3 MP made barely a ripple........very disappointing.

[War4ever]

i agree with your comments , perhaps we were just lucky with how much fun civ2 mp is...i never really played civnet, kinda like how i don't like civ3 mp.....

maybe they are due to realease a version (civ4) where the even numbers are good years and the odd are bad for mp....

anyone remmeber bret saberhagen in the 80's and his odd/even year records

[DrSpike]

I have always thought that the greatness of Civ2 for MP was somewhat serendipitous.....sure they can get the credit for providing a great game, but as we know greatness in SP generally does not equal greatness in MP.

[War4ever]

well its a great sp game for its time, though not a revolutionary as civ1 was for its time of course.....

the staying power of civ 2 is the scenarios and customization, the mp only appeals to a small crowd of people with time to waste....

customization will always extend longevity...so will altering the rules.txt to make the game more enjoyable and civ2 is easy to do on both fronts

[Ming]

Yeah... we got lucky with Civ II MP. It's really too bad that Civ III wasn't Civ II A. It would have been much better to just have a similar game, but with lots of new features and options, plus all the bugs fixed.

[War4ever]

which in essence is how many games in a series go....but they tried to do too much, and i am surprised by this b/c the CTP series was a fiasco at first and it took them two games to finally get the game working properly....

we will see a civ 4...but i think it will be just civ3 reworked into better game mechanics.....

and we will probably have to buy the mp version of it too , again

[DrFell]

Yeah I remember everyone in the civ3 forums pre-release complaining that the game looked like civ 2.5. It would've been better that way though, you can't improve much on a winning formula as PTW aptly demonstrates

[War4ever]

if they could have improved civ2's ai a bit, and the graphics (they are fine though , and i don't like civ3's) and taking out the rest of the bugs...civ2.5 would have rocked...

maybe civ3.5 in on the horizon ?

i need to give free civ another whirl..or clash of the civilizations , is that what it is called...

[Ming]

I do really wish it had been civ 2.5

sigh... Well thank god for Civ II

[DrSpike]

Civ2 is more like Civ1.5......and it worked pretty well.

[War4ever]

perhaps spike has said it best, i never thought of it that way....damm my left handedness

[Ming]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Civ2 is more like Civ1.5......and it worked pretty well.

And also made tons of money... So they should have just done the same thing again, and given us civ 1.75