Listing proven cheaters: Yes or no?

[Chris 62]

It's neither a bonus nor welcome.

It's more, how can I put this politly.....low class to display this kind of thread.

Cheaters become known quickly, there is no need for this, it's like gawking at an auto accident.

You know, I talked to the powers that be about this crap, and though my viewpoint was identical, but only the offical moderator of this section can end this, that being Leo I guess.

Step up to the plate Leo, start earning that mod tag, this stuff is crap, get rid of it.

Apolyton is supposed to be above this pettiness.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Chris 62
It's neither a bonus nor welcome.

It's more, how can I put this politly.....low class to display this kind of thread.

Cheaters become known quickly, there is no need for this, it's like gawking at an auto accident.

You know, I talked to the powers that be about this crap, and though my viewpoint was identical, but only the offical moderator of this section can end this, that being Leo I guess.

Step up to the plate Leo, start earning that mod tag, this stuff is crap, get rid of it.

Apolyton is supposed to be above this pettiness.

Chris Lighten up OK, the poll has 8 in favor and three opposed. Can we let democracy work here? The low class/ crap thing is your opinion NOT fact. If you dont like the thread then dont read it, and since you only play with people you know, I guess you dont need it anyway.

BTW Darius its a tie between me and the ANZAC on who is your biggest supporter.

And my hats off to St Leo for letting this healthy discussion and thread take place unlike some other websites I participate in. (And yes Chris that is my opinion!)

[St Leo]

For the moment, I'd prefer it if both sides would shut up. It's not as if anyone reads stickied threads, so it's hardly "public" humiliation. I, for one, tend to develop a blind spot towards them very fast.

I am abstaining from putting my fist down on this. In RL, I am against things like a Sex Offender registry, but I am not sure if the reasons I am against that transfer to this list. Yawn.

Hakuna matata.

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by conmcb25 Chris Lighten up OK, the poll has 8 in favor and three opposed.

Dude, YOU need to lighten up, seriously.

Can we let democracy work here?

Forums aern't democracies, and when something is wrong, it's wrong, it matters not if the majority favors it.

The low class/ crap thing is your opinion NOT fact.

It's fact, ask any of the more mature players.

If you dont like the thread then dont read it, and since you only play with people you know, I guess you dont need it anyway.

Your quite the little fascist, aern't you?
You think you can ram this crap down everybodies throat?

And my hats off to St Leo for letting this healthy discussion and thread take place unlike some other websites I participate in. (And yes Chris that is my opinion!)

There is NOTHING "healthy" about this, Leo hasn't yet taken a stand.
BTW, I have nothing to do with CFC's PBEMs, but I do support Smash in not allowing this sort of thing.
You will notice the MP world never bothered with such lists, why are YOU so determined to have it?
Ask yourself why you feel as you do.

I am abstaining from putting my fist down on this.

Leo, this is your FIRST big test, up to you whether you will allow this crap or not.
Puking out isn't a good plan.
If your against it, do something, if you support it, say so.
You can't fence sit as moderator.

[conmcb25]

Wow! I guess I have been put in my place!

Chris I appreciate your opinions but I dont agree with them. Simple as that so let agree at least to disagree. And Im not ramming anything down anyones throat. If you dont like it you dont have to read it simple as that, but there are folks out there who want this and will use this and with the poll I can with some assurance state that as a fact.

Not sure where the lighten up statement comes from, I dont think I did anything to attack you or your opinion, and Ill say that again, opinion here.

If you and the more mature players believe it is a fact thats fine but in my world it is your opinion. That goes for the other mature players you refer to as well. BTW check my birthday.

Im done and Im not responding to you on this issue anymore because I can tell it is a sore spot with you, and ST Leo would probally appreciate that from me as well.

If I offended you in any way I apologize, because that was not the intent, but Im not just going to sit here and be attacked for my opinions.

[Case]

Originally posted by Chris 62
Leo, this is your FIRST big test, up to you whether you will allow this crap or not.
Puking out isn't a good plan.
If your against it, do something, if you support it, say so.
You can't fence sit as moderator.

No offence Chris, but this isn't the CFC OT Forum. Just about everbody who posts or reads this board is sencible, sane and over 18.

No-one is going to be falsely added to 'the list' for the simple reason that anybody who falsely accuses someone of cheating and refuses to drop the claim is going to end up as a pariah themselves.


Pehaps a comprimise position would be for the thread to be locked and only Mods be able to add to 'the list'. This would ensure that the thread doesn't decend into malicious claims or a spam-fest.

[Darius871]

BTW Darius its a tie between me and the ANZAC on who is your biggest supporter.

Don't turn me into some sort of ringleader here Steve; I'm not too thrilled about this either. People brought up the idea of listing cheaters, I and a few people thought it was a good idea, and I made the thread because no one else had the balls to. I'm not passionate about it at all and frankly I don't care if it gets deleted because people make WAY too big a deal out of it, on BOTH sides.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Case

This would ensure that the thread doesn't decend into malicious claims or a spam-fest.

That is already being prevented in effect by St. Leo's moving all unrelated garbage to the 'regarding' thread, which I think is a good solution. EVERYONE on the thread has been proven beyond a doubt and any stupid accusations that people are worried about will me moved if not deleted. If this is a test, he's passed it.

[0hwell]

Go ahead, I don't mind if you do or if you don't because hell, I'll play with a cheater because I know he'll be watched like a hawk.

[Darius871]

Watched like a hawk if people know that he has cheated.

[0hwell]

Okay, there is that argument.

On the other hand, it is proven that these lists do nothing but anger people.

I take no sides.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by 0hwell

On the other hand, it is proven that these lists do nothing but anger people.

We're certainly in agreement there.

[0hwell]

I dunno what you mean by "Free Willy" but I voted that, whatever it means. Wasn't that the cheesy movie about that whale?

[Choke]

This needs to be put bluntly:

Chris, you're in the minority and no one cares what you think, shut up.

[Darius871]

That's what I love about you choke!