History of the World 2 - IV

[Rasputin]

OOC -- Mali leadership

Ok folks, this weighs heavily on my mind.... As I am currently at war with them I reaaly need to know am I facing an AI controlled civ this week or are we getting some Human leader....

Was not happy with what happened at end of last fridays game, i was in middle of moving my units when The host dropped ad my computer froze up... I had made many moves and had an agreement with the Mali leader when suddenly game stopped, where is the save game of this upto.. It had better still be my turn.!!!!Does Drake hav ethe Auto save from end of his turn ??? that will do for closeness to where we were upto... my autosave got corrupted due to computer crash....

One other point we need to address is the timer, with lag and the fact i m in war , lag caused me a loss if over 2 minutes one turn as none of my units would move but time kept counting down... i have many units to move in the war and twice ran out of time. surely we are big enough and ugly enough to trust each other with unlimited time... if i am limited again by lack of time i am sorry but i wont play anymore... minimum extension i wil agree to is 10 minutes a turn, then if i need more i will ask for more and i expect to be given it immediatly.. if my turn ends with out me finishing my moves it hinders me performing in which case i will promplty leave the Israelis to AI control or whatever partition you guys want... Not a threat guys its a promise... I HATE TIMERS .....

The partitions mentioned above favour the AL and Zulus too much, so i would be agsint them, howevr i note from above that drake said no one should get free citys given them, but he accpeted two freebies from mali last session, why did he choose to plea here that no one get free citys but then in hte game he actually takes two... i propose those 2 citys should be given back to the mali ASAP .... if Zulus want them they should hve to fight for them as per the israelis.... i hve no problem with their right to fight the mali for them... but surely his claim that the mali gave them to him to protect them from israeli doesnt hold true, what beneifit to mali is Zulu control of 2 citys , none... so that doesnt hold true, seems to me mali sub was pressured into giving them up and this should not have occured...

Also it seems some of you guys are not posting here at all or only a little, this thread is what makes this game unique... so please lets see a post fro mchines leader , Deity- an update on australia please, the mongols are too damn quiet.... capo and drake well done !!!!

[Rasputin]

Israel ---- Slightly out of Character..

I keep getting innuendoes thrown at me for choosing Hitler and Hussein as my leaders, I know that in all reality, these two would obviously be the last leaders t oever lead Israel, but guys , it is a JOKE .... Wake up !!!! It all strted because the guys here fiddled with the Rules.txt and stuff and made a scenario mod that changed Fundamnetalism to Fascism... Now guys you shouldnt have doen that and still included the Nation of Israel, they were hardly likely to becoem fascist. But Fundamental would be exactly old Israels style, even perhaps more modern times. So my choose of leaders was my little dig at the game designer here in a fun way, for changing governemnt type to Fascism ,but including Isrel as nation....

I love Fundy !!!!!!!!

Would much prefer to play with my Leader as Rasputin the Mad Rabbi !!!!!!

[The Capo]

Retort to Rasputin...



Alright, listen. First of all I think Belinda is down to play as the Mali for the rest of our game. You must understand that she was not the host, so our mishap at the end was not her fault at all. As a matter of fact its just as much your fault as it was her's. Dangime just bailed on us, which caused everything to freeze up, including on my end.

As far as the save goes, hopefully there is an autosave Drake has, otherwise we'll be using my autosave. Which is okay I guess for our purposes.

Um, Mali will not be partitioned since Belinda is their new leader.

As far as Saddam and Hitler go. I really don't care.

Israel would more likely be a Fascist rather than Fundamentalist state. You have that wrong Rasputin. Israel is nearly a fascist state right now. But I don't want to get into that.

Um, I think I cleared everything up pretty much. We need a Mongolian player but I think Sun is going to take over, although he was supposed to play last week.

I think that's pretty much it for now, its late and I can't think.

Peace.

[Rasputin]

Re: Retort to Rasputin...

Originally posted by The Capo
Alright, listen. First of all I think Belinda is down to play as the Mali for the rest of our game.

wonderful well done belinda , hope you enjoy leading the North American Mali

You must understand that she was not the host, so our mishap at the end was not her fault at all.

never aid it was

As a matter of fact its just as much your fault as it was her's.

MY FAULT HOW ???

Dangime just bailed on us, which caused everything to freeze up, including on my end.

yes damgimes fault !!!

As far as the save goes, hopefully there is an autosave Drake has, otherwise we'll be using my autosave. Which is okay I guess for our purposes.

as long as i dont hav eto sit through all those peoples turns again..... I might forget my plans

Um, Mali will not be partitioned since Belinda is their new leader.

Again well done for convincing her, and thanks belinda, just dont do everything those damn other palyers tell you to do,when i negotiate with you

As far as Saddam and Hitler go. I really don't care.

See refernece to joke

Israel would more likely be a Fascist rather than Fundamentalist state. You have that wrong Rasputin. Israel is nearly a fascist state right now. But I don't want to get into that.

I wont get you to expand your ideas here as it is irrelevant to HOTW... WE could argue between ourselves all day and all night and never agree on that !!!!!

Um, I think I cleared everything up pretty much. We need a Mongolian player but I think Sun is going to take over, although he was supposed to play last week.

another no show... deity was going to approach some people he knew

I think that's pretty much it for now, its late and I can't think.

obviosuly


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[SunTzu]

Ok heres the thing i'll be able to take over Mongolia but not this coming week. the National tourny is calling me. Talk to drake for details. I'll take them over next week though.

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by SunTzu
the National tourny is calling me. Talk to drake for details.

ok what national tourney ..... ????

[SunTzu]

Here's the dilio. I've been playing baseball for a Senior Babe Ruth team. The State tourny was this past week. The Championship game(which we won!) was suppose to be friday, but they made thursday the championship game night. We lost thursday and was suppose to play the last game after that but we didn't finish the first game until midnight because of rain. So the other team said they wanted to play friday morning. we played them friday morning and won 17-3 we go to texas for the national tourny in a week or so.

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by SunTzu
Here's the dilio. I've been playing baseball for a Senior Babe Ruth team. The State tourny was this past week. The Championship game(which we won!) was suppose to be friday, but they made thursday the championship game night. We lost thursday and was suppose to play the last game after that but we didn't finish the first game until midnight because of rain. So the other team said they wanted to play friday morning. we played them friday morning and won 17-3 we go to texas for the national tourny in a week or so.

cool stuff well done, i forgive you for letting real life interfer with HOTW !!!!!

Hope you win.....

[SunTzu]

Thanks, i hope so too we got these cool medals they're 22k gold. VERY VERY HEAVY THINGS. I thought we were gonna get rings though i wanted to get rings i already have enough medals(14)

[Rasputin]

well lets not let this become too far off topic... Capo and drake get upset about those sort of thing,, Very serious guys you know...

So hurry back and meybe we still have a slot for you ....

[Rasputin]

Top Secret Document

From : Preisdent Saddam Hussein
To: The Right Honourable leader of the Mali people

My dear madam,

It has come to my attention that the Mali people have finally chosen a long term leader for themselves. It pleases Israel very much to see some stability return to the government of your people. We feel that much of the aggresion between our two countries was caused by the lack of strong long term leaders. Over the past few centuries we have encountered different policies every time a new leader emerges, but the basic policy of aggression and hate of the Israeli people has continued throughout all.

As a token of our belief that it is possible for our two nations to live side by side in peace we call for a meeting between your foriegn minisiter and our own, to write up a permanent agreement between our two nations leading to fulltime peace in the region. This war is proving costly to both our nations an we feel that a settlement is better than a protracted war where those onlookers around us cheer us on to even more sacrifices.

One area of concern though is your succession of provinces in the Nile Valley to the Zulus. We feel you should demand these citys back as we would prefer to be neighbours with you than with the unknown Zulus.

If you should require assistance in getting those citys back, dont fail to ask us for we wish to build stronger links with your new leadership. Once peace is established we wish to open our trade doors to you and hope you will do the same. Their is much profit to be made in this arrangement.

I myself will be following up this letter to you personally in a visit to Timbuktu shortly, before I arrive I hope to receive word from you regarding your acceptance of our desire for peace and to start negotaitions immediatly.

The new border between our two nations will be decided upon at that time.

Thankyou

President of the Socialist Republic of Greater Israel
Saddam Hussein.

[Rasputin]

Top Secret Document

From : President Saddam Hussein
To : President Paul Keating

Gday mate,
How are things down under. Unfortunately due to pressing urgent civil matters I have been unable to attend your pleasant country. This is a matter I wish to rectify in the not too distant furure.

However, this letter is being sent to you on much more urgent business. It has been advised to me by my chief of R&D Albert Einstien , that the Australian Government are no longer in a position to share with us their great achievements. I need not remind you Paul, that it was in some small way due to our open door policy of trade that allows you to spend so much on R&D. It has always been the understnding between our two countries , that for the right to trade with us, you would openly allow our scientists access to your research results.

We are very disappointed with this twist in our backs by Austrlaains, especailly at this time of greatest need in our war against the Mali.

Fortuantley I feel that my latest peace offering will be accepted by their new leader. Hopefully peace in the Region will allow your parliament to renew our agreements of old. If not we may be forced to search for R&D bonus from other nations. I am sure your people would not like to see that happen.

I am sending my chief of R&D Albert Einstein to follow this letter, he should be arriiving via sea very soon.

Thankyou for your attention to this matter.

Your Friend

President of the Socialist Republic of Greater Israel
Saddam Hussein.

[The Capo]

Diplomatic Transmission to Israel...

Adriatic Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Adriatic League
Adriatic Socialist Republics
Honorable Francisco Franco

TO: President Saddam Hussein of Israel.
FROM: The Honorable General Francisco Franco.

President Saddam Hussein, I would first like to congratulate you on your war against the Muslim dogs the Mali. Your nation has served as an example to all of the Judeo-Christian value system as well as ability to fight for what they believe in. You have also served the Socialist cause quite well.

We hear positive word from the front that you and the Mali are just weeks away from agreeing on some sort of treaty to end this war. We hope for the best and trust in your ambassadors that a fitting negotiation will be procured.

We could not help but notice that your allies have again given you the cold shoulder in your dealings. While we have no issue with the Pacific Pact personally, we feel that any transgression upon a fellow Socialist Republic demeans the entire Socialist cause worldwide, and we take slight offense.

Remember this isn't the first time Israel had been cut short on the bargianing table, does India ring a bell?

Regardless of these political issues, our great President, Benito Mussolini wishes to hold audience with you. There are many pressing matters to discuss including the Israeli-Mali war as well as traffic on the Mediterranean. Please respond as soon as possible to set up a short but poignant private meeting (ICQ) as soon as is humanly posible.

Viva la Europa. Saluto il Duce!

~F. Franco

[The Capo]

Monaco, Adriatic League...

"Alright darling, we have ten minutes to get to our ship. Then we're off to America!" said Arturo Alessi as he looked at his watch.

"Honey please, tell me what is going on, I don't understand why you couldn't on the train." asked his wife Adriana.

"Listen," he said as he looked around nervously "They might have been listening, you never know when they are there. I have been leading a double life babe..."

"Double life?"

"Yes, I am a member of the Nuova Europa movement." he said as he looked into her eyes.

"But why? Why would you do something like that?" she asked, with a scared look on her face.

"Its for your good, its for my good, its for our family's good..."

"Family?"

"Yes, I want a family Adriana. That's why we're going to America. There are new opportunities, we can start a new life. The movement is strong there too!" he said smiling.

"I don't know baby, this all seems unreal. Like a nightmare." she said as she started to tear up.

"No no, don't cry its going to be perfect. We'll set up a farm, have lots and lots of babies. A dog. C'mon, don't cry." he said as he smiled and whiped the tears from her cheeks.

"But Artie, what about the movement, what about the police. You don't really think they're not going to be there either do you? Why can't we stay here, you can practice law, baby I don't want you in the Nuova whatever it is, I want you home safe with me..." she said with a longing look in her eyes.

"You don't understand, its important to me. The reason that man is in charge is that nobody is willing to do anything about it. He's insane. Do you know there are reports that ethnic Mongolians are being slaughtered in Orenburg and Savona? Some reports indicate that the Jews are selling Muslims to the Fascist Party to work in the mines of Novokazalinsk. I don't even want to get into Cairo, Koutiala and Libya. Baby, we are just as evil as he is if we don't act." said the man sternly, his wife just sat there amazed.

"What happened to you Artie?" she said.

"I opened my eyes...."

Around a half hour later, on the ship...

"Well say goodbye to Europe Adriana, it'll be a long time before we see her again." said Arturo with a smile as he mockingly waved back to the port of Monaco.

"I still don't know honey, we left everything behind. Our friends, your job, our home."

"Hey c'mon, its going to be great. We leave Monaco for Nuova Monaco, its one of the best cities in the Americas. You'll love it baby, c'mere." he said as he began to kiss her, just then a hand pulled back on his shoulder, it was a Gestapo officer and a man dressed in street clothes.

"Are you Arturo Alessi?" asked the man in the trench coat.

"No sir, you've got the wrong guy. My name is Miguel Giambi." Arturo said as he turned and continued kissing his wife, again the hand pulled his shoulder, his wife's eyes started tearing up.

"Is this yours Miguel?" asked the man as he held up a leather bag with a Venetian Lion crudely etched into it.

"No, I've never seen that before in my life-"

"Come with me sir...."

Back in their cabin...

"Secret military installations, Australian spy addresses, Mali resistance factions, weapon stores, secret Europa safehouses. Its all here Lorenzo, here book it." said the man as he tossed the files to a Gestapo officer, he quickly nodded and left. There were three others in the room including the one from the deck. "Arturo Corrado Alessi. Famed assassin, spy, and political activist within the Nuova Europa movement. Such a pretty young girl too, did you know you were married to a communist pig?"

She didn't say anything. "Shut up you f*cking stupid ba-" the man punched Arturo accross the face as he fell to the ground, his hands tied behind his back.

"There will be none of that, Gianni give me a gun I don't have time for this bullsh*t." one of the soldiers handed him a pistol, he promptly pointed it at Arturo's head and fired twice.

"NO!" cried Adriana as she fell on top of Arturo "Artie, Artie!" she said as she cried, her face turning bright red.

"Alright boys, clean this sh*t up. I gotta get this boat turned around..." said the man as he exited the room.

One of the soldiers picked up Adriana and threw her on the bed "Alright you whore, shut the f*ck up, Cosimo lock the door!" he barked as he started unbuckling his pants "Time to show you what a real man is all about."

The other two got on either side of the bed, one grabbed Adriana by her throat and held her down on the bed, he began kissing her face laughing.

"F*cking Communist whore...."

[Rasputin]

Prison Cell in Iraq

"move along you lot, do you think we like having to do this?" said the guard to the bedraggled prisoners.

The prisoners didnt respond, they knew that any respons ewould bring punishment.

"Gee Mark, I will be glad when all this is over, are these the last?: he asked of his fellow guard.

"Yes Luke, finally, no more damn Muslims to look after"

"Do you ever wonder where they all goto?"

"No Luke, I dont, not sure if we are allowed to think like that"

"Oh come on Mark, we are allowed to think surely, no harm in that" Luke laughed.

"you just dont know, I heard last week that 2 guards were talking in the corridor about some alleged masacre in Sudan, and no one has seen them since."

"That is jsut stories Mark, they probably got tired of al lthis Sh1t and asked to goto the front instead"

"I not so sure Luke, lets just get these guys onto the trucks and lets keep quiet"

"Ok Mark, just for you"