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  • #31
    .. to be more precise

    "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
    *deity of THE DEITIANS*
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    • #32
      Originally posted by deity
      I agree that the Tourney needs a positive energy buzz to get going.

      Cavebear has the track record for organising this stuff so count me in.
      You know what they say: "Those who can't DO, TEACH; those who can't TEACH, ADMINISTRATE (organize)". That's me, LOL!

      Some of species ideas are good as a fall back position.

      I think only use the pg AFTER a certain time period or number of sessions has lapsed - written into the rules up front.
      I agree the PG could have a role at some point, but I am leery of it. A set year or session could cause an alteration of strategies just aimed at PG position. It WOULD be the deciding factor in a game that went to the end year with no clear winner, but I will try to avoid it if possible otherwise.

      Let's let anyone nominate, see who's keen and then break it up into two groups if necessary. So, to this end I think it's been a worthwhile exercise for everyone to grade each other to get a sense of our relative strengths.
      Anyone can nominate, though I will draw a line if someone attempts to make this an "open" tourney by nominating just all and everyone. While most nominations are thoughtfully made and most are obviously valid choices, I would not include someone weaker than (or even only equal to) myself for example.

      Species, if interested, might be a good 2IC for Cavebear to help organise and communicate games info.
      I don't anticipate requiring assistance, but I will keep my mind open to the idea.

      EASTHAVEN, drake and Zylka are good new players who I hope nominate for the Tourney and should certainly be in the top group.
      Zylka is already on my list; I have now added EASTHAVEN and drake.

      I like cavebears new points system.
      I learned a lot about that last time, plus several people had some very good suggestions about scoring afterwards.

      GMT 10pm Sat night might be a good time to get North Americans/Europeans and Aussies in the same game session.
      IE, USA Sat afternoon/evening;
      European Sat evening;
      Aussie Sunday morning.
      I'll try to remember that!

      My preferrred settings (much the same as last Tourney):
      * 1x1x Deity - no huts or barbs??
      * Equal map starts
      * turn based but maybe simul till 1AD - turn based wars
      * No alliances
      * No tech trading
      * No city bribe
      I have some variation on the settings like last time (like no barbs one MP round and raging ones in the next). I like the idea about simul play. I've been trying to decide about that.

      It would be great to have maps though that no one has seen before nor revealed to anyone but I guess this is asking a bit much!


      I plan to create a number of maps using the random map generator and then changing them slightly in several variations. I will, of course, be placing the starting positions fairly.

      If there are enough players for 10 duels or something like that, I won't try to create unique maps for all of them. However, anyone depending on what they learned from someone in another game is apt some rude surprises.
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      • #33
        Here's a link to a nice visual representation of world time. It is based on GMT and shows + or - depending on location.
        It also talks about an "internet" time that seemed kind of interesting...doing away with local and international times--might be a good tool if someone can figure it out?

        Life and death is a grave matter;
        all things pass quickly away.
        Each of you must be completely alert;
        never neglectful, never indulgent.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by cavebear

          I would not include someone weaker than (or even only equal to) myself for example.
          Does that mean I have to play you in a qualifying round.

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          • #35
            I thought this was a comp for the best civ players but looking at the names it appears more like a comp for the biggest wankers.
            The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

            Hydey the no-limits man.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hydey
              I thought this was a comp for the best civ players but looking at the names it appears more like a comp for the biggest wankers.
              Ok then, I nominate Hydey ...
              "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
              *deity of THE DEITIANS*
              icq: 8388924

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              • #37
                I think only use the pg AFTER a certain time period or number of sessions has lapsed - written into the rules up front
                Then we run the risk of the PG leaders "discovering" the inability to show up for scheduled continuation dates. And if this is a nomination basis tourney, thx Smartfart, I nominate:

                Supersneak
                Bravelaker
                Hawkhunter
                Barbarian
                Boann
                Slowhand
                Maximus
                Khanman
                Tact
                Hydey
                Rasputin
                Deity
                Capo
                Sun Tzu
                Lowang
                Smash
                Barono
                Bird
                Brocher
                Cornmaster
                Matt
                Crustacean
                Dangime
                Dankmaster
                Darflex
                Drake
                Epik
                Finbar
                Jediscum
                jes
                Johan
                Kengel
                Kent-jo
                Ming
                RAH
                War4ever
                Makeo
                Mercantile
                Mindfields
                Moker
                Napolean
                Nappy
                Oedo
                Suas
                Smartfart
                Ozzy
                Thunderfall
                Zylka

                I missed a bunch of people, just ICQ/email me if I missed you and I will provide another list

                I'd just like to see everyone who wants to play get the chance

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                • #38
                  This is a good reason to break it into three divisions, based on self analysis and group vote.
                  Put me in the novice category.
                  Life and death is a grave matter;
                  all things pass quickly away.
                  Each of you must be completely alert;
                  never neglectful, never indulgent.

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                  • #39
                    Yeah I agree breaking the field into divisions would be a good idea. Almost all tourneys are set up in that manner. It allows the players a chance to choose their level of challenge. While the trophy will only go to the "elite" class winner, the equivalent of a silver and bronze prize could be awarded to winners in the Intermediate and Novice divisions.....

                    I think its a good idea, but it might complicate things too much. I can't say.

                    Of course if no one wants to admit that they belong in novice or intermediate (like Sneak and certainly I), theres no reason to break the field into classes..........
                    I see the world through bloodshot eyes
                    Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Berzerker
                      Then we run the risk of the PG leaders "discovering" the inability to show up for scheduled continuation dates......
                      edit...
                      HE HE

                      God you have a devious mind!

                      Didn't think of that but I guess you are right!

                      Takes a pg player to think of it, spose....
                      "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
                      *deity of THE DEITIANS*
                      icq: 8388924

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                      • #41
                        PG is retarded, I was never beaten in a multiplayer PG game, when i played in the league....


                        If its a MUST, then i would say use civ the civ score, and everyone has to set luxeries to 100% when it comes time to counting everyones score. because different rates give you a different score
                        Join the army, travel to foreign countries, meet exotic people -
                        and kill them!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SuperSneak
                          Here's a link to a nice visual representation of world time. It is based on GMT and shows + or - depending on location.
                          It also talks about an "internet" time that seemed kind of interesting...doing away with local and international times--might be a good tool if someone can figure it out?

                          http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/worldtime/
                          Thanks. I've downloaded the files and will experiment with it.
                          Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                          Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                          Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                          Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Deity Dude


                            Does that mean I have to play you in a qualifying round.
                            No. Just that I might only possibly not include someone that I knew for sure had no chance by direct experience.
                            Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                            Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                            Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                            Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Hydey
                              I thought this was a comp for the best civ players but looking at the names it appears more like a comp for the biggest wankers.
                              This list is merely a compedium of all niminated players at the moment. It may be advisable or necessary to reduce it later.
                              Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                              Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                              Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                              Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by deity


                                HE HE

                                God you have a devious mind!

                                Didn't think of that but I guess you are right!

                                Takes a pg player to think of it, spose....
                                That's why these will not be PG games of a session or two.
                                Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                                Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                                Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                                Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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