Discussion thread CB-Diplogame

[CapTVK]

Just got a reply that Kenthur is willing to play sub for tonight. So I guess the regular playing time (22:00-1:00 CET) stands.

[War4ever]

ok some bad news for my family..... my grandmother just suffered a stroke and while i can't do anything to help her about it..... i am going to the hospital with my mum to sit by her side today......... so i cannot play in our diplo game......

i didnt' see anyone on icq to ask to sub for me perhaps you guyz will find one anyways.....

thanks again guyz

[Epik]

It looks like we have some issues to deal with. I was reviewing my save of the game from yesterday and I see that Milo built 3 new cities for the Horde. They now have 33 cities.

From the complaining that Milo was doing, it sounds like the Horde has some major happiness problems. I hope that he did not do anything to make the situation worse than it needed to be.

I am wondering if it would be best if we just replayed yesterday's session.

Other suggestions?

[Species8472]

Replaying the session is not an option to me. Yesterdays game has tested my utter limits in patience. I dont want 3 hours of complete bordom be for nothing.

War4ever is not like in a competing area with us, he is so far ahead in the powergraph, that if we would add all our lines up on eachother, he would still be able to compete. War4ever can adapt. it was his own responsibility to find a sub, he chose poorly (or he didnt choose, i dont know how Milo got in) and that is his problem.
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[cavebear]

Ok, yes, many issues to deal with, and some of them, I am of 2 minds about.

I do not want to replay the whole session. Some secrets and strategy was revealed, and it is not fair to them to have to replicate successful tactics and goals.

On the other hand, it is not very fair to War4ever to come back to an Anarchy. That's downright cruel.

This is a difficult situation. When all is said and done, I think I have to call for the game to go forward from the 1130 A.D. point. The Horde are still well up the PG and they have an ally who is doing well. My view is that going forward from last night's position is the best of 2 hard choices.

Second, my sympathy for War4ever for the death in his family. Such things cannot be ignored, and this is only a game. Real world always wins in competition for attention. If we can't allow a person to act on family responsibilities and loss, then I will leave here now.

Thought: We might want to revisit the idea of replaying that last session. I am willing, but not enthusiastic. It *does* appeal to my sense of fair play.

My feeling is that slightly gained in the last session, and I would be willing tio give that up. I also understand that other players may have gained a great deal more and it is not fair to ask then to give *that* up.

I propose the following: If three players refuse to return to 1040, I will declare 1130 the game for the next session. You can declare anonymously or by email, I won't name anyone. After considerable thought, that is the best I can balance things. I will keep my vote secret as well.

"cavebear@erols.com"

We will move on from there...

The game has been going well, all things considered. Let's not lose it over this issue.

[Epik]

I would like to hear War4Ever's opinion before voting on this issue.


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[CapTVK]

I would also like to adress to point to the fact that the Mongols are 3 cities over the limit. Whatever is decided, those cities have to go. If we vote for 1040AD that isn't a problem otherwise it is. I don't care how it's handled but those cities must be removed.

[War4ever]

OK not only have i read the replies here..... i have also been icq'd by a few individuals.....

First and Foremost..... my grandmother passed away yesterday and thats a real shame

the game is irrelevant to me at this point...... i have heard what milo did and or did not do .... and i don't care.

I can civ with the best of them and if that means the civ is in dark ages so be it....... I agree that the three cities need to go .... other than that everyone else figure it out.

As for finding a sub..... sorry i got the news , quickly looked on icq and posted in poly..... after that i didnt turn on my computer until now sorry for the inconvienence.....

I look forward to continuing this game but alas i have a funeral to go to on Sunday as well.......

Therefore i will look this week for a sub or if anyone can find one then thats great too.....

Like Cavebear stated.... Life comes before civ.....


I wish everyone a great week

[Species8472]

I am really sorry to hear this War4ever. My sincere condolances, although that wont help much...

I suggest we skip this sundays session. I think finding another sub will make things even worse for your civ. I dont mind skipping a week, if there is a good reason for skipping, this sure is.

[cavebear]

I agree with skipping this Sunday's session. We have had too many subs in too many sessions. I certainly appreciate people who are willing to sub, but too much of that too often starts to make the game feel a bit random and disconnected.

Let's plan on trying to have all our regular players available to go again on March 18th. Does that sound satisfactory?

And I appreciate War4ever agreeing to go with his civ "as is" in 1130. Saves having to make an awkward decision about the current game year...
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[Species8472]

am i a regular player?

[cavebear]

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am i a regular player?
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Yes, assuming you intended and want to be.

[Species8472]

ok, i was a little confused whether you meant the start players or the current players. ill build a spaceship then.

[Epik]

I just wanted to confirm that we will NOT be playing the game today...

Also, is it possible to start the game earlier than 4 PM Eastern time for future sessions? It would be nice if we could get another hour or two of play into each session.

[War4ever]

thanks for being understanding today fellas..... i am off to put an issue with my cousin (mercantile) to rest along with the rest of the family.....

it is too bad we can't play a bit earlier..... but this was agreed upon before hand sooooo