Discussion thread CB-Diplogame

[absurddoctor]

I finally made it back to the forum to read the sad news. I'm sorry War.

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[cavebear]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Species8472 on 03-09-2001 04:19 PM</font>
ok, i was a little confused whether you meant the start players or the current players. ill build a spaceship then.
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No problem, I understand your concern. I should have been more precise.

You are the current permanent Egyptian player for as long as you want to be and don't piss off my Civ (joke)...

[cavebear]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Epik on 03-11-2001 10:24 AM</font>
I just wanted to confirm that we will NOT be playing the game today...

Also, is it possible to start the game earlier than 4 PM Eastern time for future sessions? It would be nice if we could get another hour or two of play into each session.

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1. I confirm that we are not playing today.

2. My brain starts to fail after 3 hours of Civ, especially in simul play. I'm an old fart, and can't hardly keep up with you young'uns...

[absurddoctor]

The boss has begged me to work this Sunday. I have to be there at 6 pm EST. I know that it can't be moved earlier because Cavebear will be busy then. AbsurdSensei probably won't be able to sub, anyone have any recommendations for a sub?

[Epik]

Just wondering whether this game will be continued...

[cavebear]

I understand the requirement, Absurd. Still, *sigh*!

OK, that's off my chest...

Fishing for a sub... (what do I use for bait, a torpedo? Or Italian cold cuts?) LOL!

Absurd, can you email me (cavebear@erols.com) a brief summary of what your civ is doing and what you want a sub to do? I promise not to read it, but will pass it along to the sub...

[CapTVK]

Cavebear,

Chaos Warrior has shown interest in playing a sub. Do you already have a sub? or should I try to contact him?

I take we'll continue from 1130AD?

[absurddoctor]

Yeah, *Sigh* ... And today I had to cover for someone who was sick ... well, I guess its good to have the money.

Now that I'm out of work I'm about to get busy getting drunk for St. patty's day, but I will send the email off for tomorrow.

Sorry about this, but I do have next Sunday off, so I'll be back then, and I will NOT be working under any circusmtances.


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[cavebear]

Cap - By all means tell Chaos Warrior he/she can sub. I couldn't find anyone myself! Glad you did!

[Epik]

War4Ever, do you have an AOL IM account? Mine is Epik7. If you have AOL IM, then send me a message. Prehaps that will work for today.

[cavebear]

OK, the session fell apart. That happens. We will try to regroup with some new players next time. Volunteers are welcome.

[CapTVK]

There seems to some discord in the group about this diplogame. That's why I've bumped the original Tales from the front-II-threads for some inspiration what diplogames are about.


For people who can't be bothered to read. A diplogame is about PLAYING the game and not being the first to AC! One important point I would also like to make is that alliances are NOT etched in stone. In the game the two top civs: the Vikings (or Borg ) and Mongols entered into an alliance and have stayed in that alliance. Leaving the rest of the world to fend for themselves. But why should No.2 team with No.1 in diplomatic terms? No.2 doesn't gain anything from this as he's only helping No.1 by not trying to slow him down so that he can beat No.1! In real life this would be like having alliance between Americans and the Russians during the peak of the coldwar, so they can improve their industry without the fear of being attacked.


P.S
It's become clear that simul is not the best option for playing a 7-player diplogame. That's why I've decided, with Cavebear and two other players in agreement, to change this game back to normal turns.

2nd P.S
Please don't post in the 2nd part of the tales-II thread. There's only one post left there.

[War4ever]

k i have a problem too..... icq wont' work it kicked me in a game with four others last night..... i can connect to the net.... but not icq

[Epik]

Prehaps you can convince me to resume this game, but it has not gone well recently.

I realize that AbsurdDoctor and War4Ever have had good reasons for not being available, but their absence has adversely effected the game.

How many Sunday's will AbsurdDoctor's boss force him to work in the future? How many different subs will replace him, or will we be unable to get a sub? Each sub will have their own style and will effect the game. I think it is important to develop some idea of the players style in a diplo game (are they aggressive or cooperative? are they trustworthy?).

Will War4Ever return to the game? Milo was a sub for War4Ever and the Mongols ended up in Despotism. Jedi was brought in this week and quit almost immediately.

These games go on for a long time... I grow tired of commiting my Sundays to a game that has this many problems. I hate to end my weekends with frustration. Can you convince me that frustration will not be a recurring emotion with this particular game?

I have no desire to play a diplogame with an AI tribe. It is my opinion that the AI is a bad player, and cannot perform the the diplomatic roles. I will not resume the game with an AI.

So do your best... convince me that this game is worth resuming.


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[absurddoctor]

I am sorry that things fell apart, and that I did not get a message to cavebear to give to my sub about my plans and etc.

As far as my working Sundays, that should not happen again for awhile, this was something of a fluke.

I do hope that you will stay, and that we will be able to continue on this week. When this game has gone right, it has given the most enjoyment I have ever found out of civing since I first started playing the original as a kid. I hope that you have had as much enjoyment as I have.

This week the problems should be over, so lets give it another shot.


On another note, what were the problems with simultaneous? What prompted the switch? I am not complaining, it is fine with me,I am just curious.

Lastly, I would not want to play with an AI either, however if we had no other choice, I suppose that would be better than not playing at all.

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