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    Once again, I have achieved a new Civ2 high. I have developed a scenerio based loosely on The American Civil War. The unique part of this scenerio is the extranous rules not part of a normal civ game.
    I built a board, resembling the East coast of the U.S. all the way to the Rockies . The great American rivers are represented by 1 square oceans to allow river warfare which was such a huge part of The Civil War.
    I have created 26 era specfic units for play in this game. The most unique is the Armies ( Lee's Northern Virgina, Army of the Potomac, Army of the Cumberland, Shermans army, etc) these are extremely tough units with different af,df,hp,fp,m, and costs. The neat thing is that you can only have 1 of each of the 9 armies in play at any one time. The North has 4 armies at start, can build a 5th on turn 5 and a 6th on turn 10. The South has 3.
    One of thoose extranous rules is the movement rules.
    The North is allowed 30 movement points.
    The South is allotted movement points based on the value of the citys they control with a max of 25.
    For instance it costs 3 to move an army, 1 to move a normal unit, 2 to move a calvery, 2 or 4 to fortify a unit, double for sea movement, triple for an invasion, 3 to build a fort ect. This demonstrates the advantage The North had throughout the war in resources.
    There is 160 pts of citys on the board(2 for a town, 3 for a city and 5 for a major city)(I have made 3 unique tiles to identify them easily) When the North holds 120 pts. worth the game ends. If The South holds both Washington DC and New York at the same time, the game ends in a glorious Southern victory.
    The South scores victory points in the following way:
    2 for each turn they survive
    1 pt for each north city point they take paid only once/city
    20 pts for taking either NY or DC
    10 pts each turn either NY or DC is held
    Add up the VPs and thats the Southern score.
    Now you CAN accurately compare your abilities to others by both Southern pts scored/game and Southern pts allowed per/game.
    The game is designed to be played in less then 3 hours.
    I have attached an early draft of the board.
    I need 2 things, feed back and play testers.
    (more to come)
    Attached Files
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    The units

    Unit AF DF HP FP MOVE COST MAX#
    ----------------- --- --- --- --- ---- --- ----------
    North Rifle 5 4 2 1 4 30 20
    North Musket 3 2 2 1 4 20 --
    South Rifle 6 4 2 1 4 30 12
    South Musket 4 2 2 1 4 20 --
    Calvery 8 3 2 2 6 50 N-10 S-7
    Canon 10 2 2 2 3 40 N-7 S-5
    General Lee A. 8 4 14 4 4 200
    StoneWall A. 6 5 10 3 4 100
    Hood A. 7 3 8 3 4 80
    Grant A. 6 4 10 3 3 150
    Western A. 5 4 8 3 3 100
    Potomac A. 4 4 10 3 3 80
    Cumberland A. 6 3 8 3 3 80
    Sheridian A. 5 5 8 3 3 80
    Sherman A. 7 3 10 4 4 200
    Inidian 5 2 1 2 5 ---- S-10
    Texans 6 4 2 2 4 ---- S-6
    River Clad 4 4 4 4 6 80 N-6 S-4
    River Transport 0 2 1 1 8 30 N-6 S-3
    River Gunboat 6 2 2 4 6 40 N-4 S-2
    Ocean Clad 4 4 4 4 8 60 N-8 S-5
    Ocean Transport 0 2 2 1 12 40 N-6
    Frigate 4 3 2 3 8 40 N-8 S-4
    Sub 10 2 1 4 5 S-2
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    • #3
      Sounds interesting, I'll playtest that
      Sounds like you took inspiration from that boardgame I cant remember the name from.

      How are you going to build the movement points into civ?

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      • #4
        The Mississippi River Campaign
        To recreate the value to the North and importance to the South, if the North captures and holds all the Miss. port citys (New Orleans,Baton Rouge, Vicksburg, Memphis and St. Louis) the South can not move any units west of the Mississippi. furthermore, the South can only expend a max of 3 mfs per port they own west of the Miss.
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        Oh, Its True, Its Dang True!

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        • #5
          sounds great strat....
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          • #6
            Different from your traditional chest puffing.
            But it does sound interesting. Will be curious to read the reaction of testers. Heck maybe even try it myself.
            Doesn't sound anywhere near as tedious as your last endeavor.
            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #7
              The South is set up to lose from the very beging of the game. But they have to be tough and stick it out no matter how few movements they get each turn and the fact that city after city is falling to the North.
              The North, on the other hand, has to take chances and cant dilly dally. Every turn delay in ending the game is 2 more VPs for the South.
              Early in the game, The Lee Army is very tough and must threating attacks to the East on DC and then up towards Phili or west towards Harrisburg or Pittsburg. If you do a good job, you can tie down huge forces protecting these areas to prevent Southern VPs.
              The North has to wear down Lees army and trap it between 2 armys and kill it.
              Out West, the Union must fight down the Mississippi and protect the Plains citys from Texan and Indian raids.
              The North can also surge an army south like Shermans march to the sea.
              Lots of different things to do and their is no caravans and a min. of micromanagement, no sci and no unhappiness. Just movement, combat and a min of production.
              8 Time Game League Champion!
              Oh, Its True, Its Dang True!

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              • #8
                I'm waiting for his twin to show up.
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • #9
                  Mine or his
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #10
                    sounds more like an AAR has me intrigued
                    Boston Red Sox are 2004 World Series Champions!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by War4ever
                      sounds more like an AAR has me intrigued
                      OK, I'm stupid, AAR?

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                      • #12
                        I presume this is set up to be played as 2x2x king?

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                        • #13
                          He did movement completely different so I don't think that applies.
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #14
                            Rah is right. It is not 2 x production. Most citys are already maxed out supporting units and have 0 shields left. if you read the unit description above, MP stands for movement points and every unit has been assigned its own movement rate that is not 2 x. Further, this is not a game about happiness, caravan trading, city micro management or anything like that. In fact, an extra rule is that when you take an enemy city you cant produce anything from that city symbolizing the damage to the city and the unwillingness of the people to join the enemy army and the short period of time each turn represents. Thus king setting has nothing to do with this game.
                            Its simply a combat and movement game that, again, is designed to be over in 3 hours or less and with either a south win or a score established.
                            I am working fevorishly to finish this game by Independence day, but expect o be finished and ready to play test by the 6th or 7th, this weekend.
                            The game will take some book keeping to expend the movement factors. But , a paper in front of you with all the movement factor costs and another paper to record all movement factors expended, when you reach the limit your turn is over wont be to cumbersome, just take a turn or two to get used to. ( this is the way we used to do it back in the board game era!)
                            Any definite play testers this weekend?
                            8 Time Game League Champion!
                            Oh, Its True, Its Dang True!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
                              ( this is the way we used to do it back in the board game era!)
                              Yep. But by making comments like that, people are going to group you with us Old Foggies that talk about the golden age of board games.

                              Computers to keep track of all the tedious crap was the best thing that happened to gaming.

                              This does look interesting, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to make some time for it, But your 3 hours or less concept makes it quite a bit more probable.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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