I can't beleive I didn't know....

[rah]

20% seems to match experience.

[atawa]

do multiple dips increase chances?

[rah]

No

[Berzerker]

I wonder if the guy who attacked the buffalo built ships to kill them whales and fish.

Not that it matters since I never posted about it, but I knew about the Oedo pattern for a long time. I just figured people knew about it even though I should have known otherwise since I can remember playing people who complained about spending several turns in anarchy.

I am using hutfinder now , but there were a number of things I learned from our get together if only I could remember them all. Oh yeah, getting 5 beakers of science from the first 2 cities (2x prod) to get the first tech in 2 turns, etc. And actually counting the compiled beakers so I'd know when the tech I was researching would be found.

I didn't know your chances of getting a nomad increased if you already got one nomad and built a city.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Ming
Well... the book claims 20% for diplos and 40% for spies... but frankly... the odds don't seem to be that high, or at least it rarely works for me.

You can't be suggesting the manual contains errors.

[Ming]

Originally posted by DrSpike
You can't be suggesting the manual contains errors.

[winzity]

Diplos in your cities work well

at least if they are veterans. I a recent game I had diplos in near all cities and they repelled around 80% of the attacks)not 20%). All was veterans I had Sun Tzu.

[Ming]

The manual does not state that veteran diplos are any better than non vets. And as far as Vet Spies go, it states that they have a 60% chance of catching fellow envoys...

[winzity]

HEHE

Good game exercises give more than only reading does

[rah]

Re: Diplos in your cities work well

Originally posted by winzity
at least if they are veterans. I a recent game I had fiplos in near all cities and they repelled around 80% of the attacks)not 20%). All was veterans I had Sun Tzu.

Sun Tzu doesn't give vet diplos. or fiplos as you call them

Communism makes vet spies.

[SlowThinker]

A couple month ago I started a thread where I asked why an AI don't want to swap maps although Worshipful. Do you know the answer?

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Originally posted by atawa
Btw, did someone calculate the corruption/waste in relation to the distance to your cap?

Did you ever hear about Apolyton's GL?

Originally posted by rah
Let's see, there was also a person that didn't know that if your food bin was full, that the city would still grow if you had a negative food production (as long as the the new worker would cover the the negative)

That's not true, the new worker needn't cover the negative. You can totally ignore food when you grow.

[SlowThinker]

Another one:

Originally posted by atawa
do multiple dips increase chances?

Originally posted by rah
No

But yes.

[winzity]

Originally posted by SlowThinker
That's not true, the new worker needn't cover the negative. You can totally ignore food when you grow.

Right! The reason is that the current city size is decided before the resources (food, shields, trade and so on) are updated. Please see my post above!

[rah]

Originally posted by SlowThinker
Another one:

But yes.

Maybe for spies, but everytime I've tested it with dips, there has been no significant difference.

Tested human vs human in an MP game. Others are welcome to try an replicate it. Any test done with an AI involved or in SP mode will not be considered valid.

[DrSpike]

You are probably both right.