MP ettiquette: Or things that tic you off.

[Ming]

That's why I like to save the turns... somethings just don't look "natural". I can understand following rivers or hut patterns... but bee lining to the cap gets old quick.

[atawa]

When you get a whale at start but no shielded grassland to build your cap on.

Damn 7-shield city's

[Ming]

In 2x production games, give me a forest and that whale... or a river grassland shield

[rah]

I prefer the river grassland for that extra science (and food). The forest and whale only give you three beakers. But I'll settle in a pinch.

[War4ever]

it makes an even better second city...

[rah]

Yes, second city, EXXXXXXXXcelent.

[War4ever]

whale or silk, i like whales better cuz once they are being used, so long as you don't remove them, they can't be stolen and the extra food always helps too

[rah]

Yeah, but I remember back in civI you could steal the sea based specials by putting a ship on them. Think of some of the sea battles that would cause.

[DrSpike]

I've often wondered why it was changed..........seems inconsistent with the way land specials can be 'borrowed'.

[War4ever]

yeah...naval battles over specials would be a great idea

[atawa]

Originally posted by Ming
In 2x production games, give me a forest and that whale... or a river grassland shield

My points is that once it turns size 2 you can turn out setts every 5 turns when build on a shielded grass and working both the whale and forrest.
When build on a normal grass this turns to 7 turns and you have to keep moving the worker in order to not waste shields.

The forest and whale only give you three beakers.

5 in 2x

I dont give a rats ass about rivers in 2x production, usualy you end up placing city's where you dont want them in order to maintain a good infrastructure, a rivermouth with the shielded grass+ whale or forrest and fih are nice though.

[War4ever]

river forest is great to build on

[rah]

Originally posted by atawa
5 in 2x

I dont give a rats ass about rivers in 2x production, usualy you end up placing city's where you dont want them in order to maintain a good infrastructure, a rivermouth with the shielded grass+ whale or forrest and fih are nice though.

A forest/whale combo is only three in 'despotism' in 2x prod. And you're right, in 2x production rivers are no where near as important. While not critical, the extra defense, trade and mobility are a "nice" to have, but the lack of them doesn't stop me from settling.

And yes, on our tiny rocks, river forests rock. Of course most of my non forested river squares are forests before the sessions are done.

[atawa]

I think we are talking about different things here, a whale in despo gives you 5 trade of witch 3 are sience.

[War4ever]

yes i think your talking different languages too