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  • #61

    Do I deduce that your flurry of tech exchanges occured BEFORE we got Philosophy - had you waited one more turn it would have been ours in 1AD - or did we lose celebration, play with the tax rate etc!????

    The Phalanx gave sufficient martial law for our capital to take two workers from sea squares so that the magic 10 shields could be achieved without losing celebration or increasing the luxury rate - see my log! What's the betting you changed the Phalanx to a caravan and moved to 10 shields a turn and didn't notice that this lost celebration?

    I don't do SSCs either - but I do do big fat Super Trade Cities - grow that capital you second rate trader you!!

    [end of mega rant]

    Such is the nature of Succession Games and we are all entitled to our views and playing styles - this is the charm of SGs (ed. no he doesn't mean Scouse gits - they have no charm whatsoever...)

    SG[1]
    "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
    "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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    • #62
      SG[1], we were doing about 20 turns each. Do more next time.
      Glad you saw I was moving those Settlers to Avalon for growth. Obviously great minds occasionally think alike

      Julius, no SciWoW true but a Sorta Science City is still possible (much trade, Lib, Uni, buncha Eins after size 20). You only did 14 turns. Resign early to scout locations for reeducation camp?

      Of which speaking we might give an Arthurian or Pythonish name??
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      • #63
        Oh, right. Me again?

        I should be able to download and play tomorrow AM!

        Hopefully I can cause even more dissention in the ranks

        STYOM
        "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

        "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
        "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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        • #64
          Let the games begin!

          STYOM reels into his hovel in Avalon, a shadow of his usual self after a night of wenching, drinking, and suggestive leering. The kingdom is once again leaderless! Preceding dynasties have fallen from glory, reduced to embittered squabbling over Phalanxes and Caravans. STYOM recalls a happier time when the people were happy and united under their King. STYOM resolves to end the rule of the Kingly dynasties - if we're going to squabble, let's do it in the Senate

          And now we'll see real unhappiness!


          AD 200: Travelers report the Mongols have almost finished an Oracle.
          Revolution, just to annoy the SG's. We meet with the Viking leader and are persuaded to war on the Mongols. Trade Republic for Mathematics, with the Chinese. Aztecs finish Shakes.

          220: Republic formed! Now, everyone is free to criticize STYOM without fear of summary execution (and I can hear the shrieks from the back benches already). Taxes 1.3.6

          Medicine and Banking acquired from Aztecs for Bridge Building and Polytheism.

          Production in Avalon changed from Harbor to Aqueduct.

          Spirited debate in the Senate regarding Ormuz, and whether it would be 'fair play' to induce the citizens there to join our empire in exchange for a government grant. In the end, unfettered violence is decided to be the better option

          240: Mongols finish their Oracle. Chinese abandon their Oracle.

          Celebrations begin in many fair cities.
          Ormuz plundered for 32 gold. Barbarian King lies behind it; 150 gold!

          Hides Abington-Teotihuacan, 280g, Silk Brenzaidograd-Teotihuacan, 480 g. (Aside to Carolus Rex: I see your point) Taxes now 0.4.6. Aqueduct rushed in Avalon.

          260: Engineering; now working on Invention (Mono not offered )
          Dye Caravan in Abington. Aqueduct in Avalon. Doorstop founded.

          280: Cease fire with Mongols in exchange for Construction. Mongol chariot hired, on the cheap.

          Silver Avalon-Teotihucan 176 g.

          300: Durance Vile founded.

          320: Hides Camelot-Tenochtitlan, 200g.

          340-380: construction of caravans proceeds apace!

          400: Zulus start KRC. Invention discovered; researching Monotheism.
          Dye Abington-Tlatelolco, 136g. Beads BoobooOnYou-Tlatelolco, 68g. LW started.

          420-460: more construction.

          480: We decline to join the Mongols in their war on the Vikings.

          500: Aztecs and Zulus each start Leos... Vikings start Copernicus!

          520: Ex Mongol founded; starts Settlers.
          Coal Avalon-Tlatelolco, 180 g;

          540: LW rushed in Avalon. Wine Abington-Teotihuacan, 235 g. Monotheism discovered :grrr: ; working on Gunpowder.

          560: LW built; starting on Mike's in Avalon.

          580-600: Caravans stampede towards Avalon.

          Perhaps 2AM on Saturday isn't the best time to play

          OK... some of you are going to want out of Republic... I felt the growth was worth it. Mike's is just around the corner (3 caravans en route to Avalon), and we should we able to WLTCD up nicely. Barbs seem poised to sack Texcoco; I'm moving a Diplomat to be picked up by Trireme to bribe it should that happen (and become a thorn in the side of the Aztecs).

          Otherwise... point fingers and shout 'Nee' if you will, but look at yon powergraph, ye doubters!
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          Last edited by Six Thousand Year Old Man; June 22, 2002, 02:31.
          "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

          "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
          "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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          • #65
            * points finger *
            Neeeeeee

            SG[1]
            "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
            "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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            • #66

              "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!"

              MPE is IM(definitely not humble)O a useful Wonder ONLY if it is used to get maps - we got a zillion 'let's slow ourselves down' techs and only TWO maps!

              20 turns of 'wonderful' Republican celebration and 'valuable' peaceful trading with the HEATHEN, a luxury rate of 40% and our glorious capital is now ... wait for it ... size 10.
              We could have done this for 180 shields.
              Monotheism in 540AD - our glorious Crusaders will be facing Mechanised Infantry!

              * reaches for oxygen mask at back of bath-chair and spittle runs down chin *

              "Sod the Oxygen - bring me a Wine Caravan!"

              * Collapses *

              SG[1]
              "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
              "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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              • #67
                Hmmmm

                Well, 2/3 of the caravans I sent weren't from Avalon... so Republic seemed the better option for trading, rather than trying to keep keep the whole empire celebrating for the trade bonuses in Monarchy.

                I will grant that Mikes's could have been had in 560 - possibly at the cost of Leos' though. With none of the AIs having Mono at that point, I thought it was worth an attempt to force them to abandon wonder construction.

                Once we have Mikes (probably in 3-4 turns), all the infrastructure and trading put in place during my term should allow for rapid growth.

                And if not...
                "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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                • #68
                  I say to you both:

                  E
                  nnnNNNNI! NI!

                  Need more prep
                  Before change to Rep.
                  Now that it's done,
                  Let's have some fun?
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                  • #69
                    STYOM, I am with you
                    And please, the old farts, let me defend myself

                    Well, I plead guilty for the philosophy incident. I was afraid I would only get choice from techs own by the AI, so I decided to trade for them before the discovery. A stupid plan. For the fat trade city, nobody told me of that plan, and I think my concept of foreign trading is viable too. Gits, no I didn’t put workers on forest and let Avalon stop celebrating, they remained on water, but 1 for 1 turn, to build caravans in 7.
                    I made a few mistakes, but don’t deem I should be hanged right away. And anyway, Straybow, didn’t you notice the name of the second city I founded : Escpae My Fate !
                    Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

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                    • #70
                      Re: Let the games begin!

                      Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
                      Revolution, just to annoy the SG's.
                      Correction - that should read SG - singular. Playing three succession games already I decided to pass on this one I have downloaded the game to have a peek and to see the fun I am missing

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                      "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                      "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                      • #71
                        This game goes so quickly, with so many heated discussions, that I suppose it's late to join you.
                        Straybow, you are the boss, please let me know (... whether one more hard biting old fart would be welcome ).
                        Aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental

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                        • #72
                          The list at the top of the page suggests that I am up - but should it not be StrayBow himself or LaFayette if he joins?
                          Please advise ...

                          Hope I didn't ruffle too many feathers with my rants - I really enjoy letting my hair down like that - and I'm guessing you guys know me well enough by now to know that no offence is ever intended ...

                          SG[1]
                          "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                          "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                          • #73
                            Order, what order?

                            Rrrrruffles have rrrrrridges, not feathers. Non-sequiturs aside, I took my second turn before you 'cause you said it would be more than a day before you'd get to it.

                            Farts old and not-so-old are welcome, else I'd have to exclude meself (I turned 39 this week ), so LaFayette's up. Take about 20 if you can stand it.
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                            • #74
                              Downloaded. Ready? Go!
                              (but I must read the thread first in order to play in accordance with the rules)
                              Aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental

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                              • #75
                                Beginning of a mad mad growth

                                I know my duty. STYOM left Mike under building and Mike is not the kind of wonder that we would like to stay under building until the AI builds it before us.

                                Short log:
                                740AD: MIKE completed; luxuries set at 50%
                                760AD: All cities over size 2 celebrate
                                820AD: Only 2 small cities still willing to celebrate any longer; lux set at 20%; size of our civ (worked squares )increased from 77 to 100 in 4 turns.
                                840AD: Gunpowder discovered; Sanitation researched.
                                960AD: Sanitation discovered; University researched.
                                1000AD: KRC to be completed next turn; Lafayette sent home by foolish senators.
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