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  • Ve note zat Albi Central haz d/led ze game...
    Your comment Sir?

    The SGs just settling into the first bottle
    "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
    "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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    • Beat you JR

      SGs
      "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
      "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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      • Originally posted by Scouse Gits

        I played until I took Trondheim in 1060AD.

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        SG(2)
        We have a say in french: "Tous les chemins mènent à Rome".
        In this case it would become: "Tous les chemins mènent à Tronheim"... (which is precisely what I did when I was 20 years old, in order to meet that Norwegian girl )

        Congratulations for fine Republican management

        (Republican management leading to war: I guess Mr Bush would appreciate )
        Aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental

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        • BTW I bet Straybow will highly appreciate that 'Ironclad Dock'
          Aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental

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          • Well aware am I as to the common useage of those terms here. My querry was more to the roots of those words; as in, lagomorph does not appear in my dictionary. Is it from Latin, or something??

            It does however have this to say about rabbit: "1. a burrowing RODENT of the hare family." Sorry, -Jrabbit.

            Monk
            so long and thanks for all the fish

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            • BAD dictionary.
              BAD!!!!

              If it doesn't even recognize lagomorph as a word, it stands to reason that one might question their accuracy in related matters. Just another example of the specious, ignorant slagging my kind must endure.

              (sigh)
              Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
              RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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              • ROTFLOAO

                The SGs two bottles down
                "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                • Sorry, gang. I've had FNSGS, followed by mandatory attendance at daughter's competitive activities today. Sunday is my brother's 40th, so that will eat more time.

                  Holding out hope for Sunday late to get after this...
                  Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                  RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                  • Wear the label with pride, -Jrabbit!

                    Lepus/Leporidae is the Latin, used in the Linean family or genus name, while the Greek is Lagos, used in the order name. If you look up lagomorph in a respectable dictionary
                    any of an order (Lagomorpha) of gnawing herbivorous mammals having two pairs of incisors in the upper jaw one behind the other and comprising the rabbits, hares, and pikas

                    and for rodent, as a Linean order Rodentia is separate from Lagomorpha, but that's not the whole story…
                    1 : any of an order (Rodentia) of relatively small gnawing mammals (as a mouse, a squirrel, or a beaver) that have in both jaws a single pair of incisors with a chisel-shaped edge
                    2 : a small mammal (as a rabbit or a shrew) other than a true rodent
                    (\__/) Save a bunny, eat more Smurf!
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                    • Thanks for setting them straight, Straybow!!

                      I knew I was right (having been taught well by my daughter WHO IS NEVER WRONG -- but haven't had time to do this basic research.

                      More Rabbit News (Gnaws?) come daylight. Stay tuned...
                      Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                      RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                      • Well as I stated previously, I was quoting my college dictionary from 1965. Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language. It WAS considered respectable then. But not finding an answer therein, I asked here. Thanks for the help, gents.

                        Monks have robes with no pockets, so I've had to hang on to such ancient resources far beyond their use-by date. Who knew definitions change!!



                        Monk
                        so long and thanks for all the fish

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                        • Setting the table...

                          Lagomorphic runes appear, writ in blood. The ppl wait and ponder, "Though these are Hard Times indeed, whatever cruel twist of Fate can it be that rests our future in the hands of a rabbit?"

                          1140 AD
                          -Jrabbit the Imperator surveys the kingdom. He sees a profitable (177GP/turn) Republic spread across three continents. Is this right and just? For a Monarchy will produce much-needed shields, and the sage Oedo decrees that 1180 and 1260 are among the upcoming years ripe for change.

                          The scientists wallow in disuse (10%, 20 turns), yet the ppl seems oddly pleased (30%). -Jrabbit charts a course -- the needed techs are Democracy, Gunpowder, Economics, and Sanitation, plus a trip down the path of Steam Engine - Railroad - Industrialization.

                          As for the rest of the world, little is known beyond the ancient maps, as no embassies exist. With both the Russians and Babylonians, a state of war exists. With the Spanish, a cease fire. Our reputation is Excellent. Diplomatic relations do not improve after introducing himself to foreign representative.

                          Idly playing with the distribution of resources, -Jrabbit elects to release some of the tax (30%) burden on the ppl, redeploying needed resources to the research community (60%, 5 turns). Reduced to 10% luxuries, several cities end their celebrations. WLTxD? Not so much...

                          1160 AD
                          --Though Hard Done By, we are still the most powerful civ in the world. vikes are #2, followed by Spain, Russia, Babylon, and China.
                          --Wine shipment delivered in Stick Spit = 62 GP
                          --Monarchy? Revolt? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... NO. We stay in Republic!

                          1180 AD
                          --Russian horse spotted south of Port Trondheim. and killed, netting a vet crusader.
                          --whale Woe Gems delivered to Jorvic, netting 396 GP.
                          --Our caravel spots a Russian caravel, sinks it and all 3 passenger units aboard.
                          --We use the proceeds to buy some white goods, promote camel-breeding.
                          --viking cat spotted near Aarhuis; dip screen won't permit tribute request.

                          1200 AD
                          --Hard done By wise men discover Invention!
                          --With choice of Democracy, Economics, Steam Engine (and some unwanted techs), -Jrabbit tanks a bit. Though he loves 'clads and has always wanted to meed Adam Smith, it's DEMOCRACY time!
                          --Viking cat approaches Aarhus. We parley with Vikes. The declare WAR. They's now got a dead cat.
                          --Peace with Babylonians.

                          1220 AD
                          --Spanish trireme lands elephant, settler on Viking continent.
                          --Our trade caravel spots the last Viking city, Westness.
                          --Establish Viking embassy. They are an aggressively expansive Republic with 888 GP, at war with Spain. 9 cities, capital = Trondheim, studying Astronomy.

                          1240 AD
                          --Spanish begin Great Library
                          --Vikes, Russkies secretly ally against us.
                          --We continue our camel-tickling.

                          1260 AD
                          --Stick Spit silk delivered to 2 Whales, nets 90 GP.
                          --Brutally murder Vike chariot at Little Trondheim.
                          --vikings, Spanish declare Peace with each other.
                          --Oedo sends reminder to -- but -Jrabbit ignores him.

                          1280 AD
                          --Wise men discover DEMOCRACY!! The Lady beckons...
                          --Choice of Gunpowder, Economics, Sanitation, Chivalry. Even -Jrabbit knows it's a fool who has a chance to be first to Gunpowder and doesn't grab it!
                          --Coal shipment form WasZimbabwe to Roskilde nets 215 GP.
                          --Beads delivered to Tronheim. Even without demand, this yields 208 GP.
                          --Our vet cruc in Port Trondheim loses to marauding Russian archer on mountain.
                          --Newfound wealth yields much tickling.

                          1300 AD
                          --Vikings complete Astronomy.
                          --Barbs land on north pole, near Ironlake Valley.
                          --Camel-tickling continues.

                          1320 AD
                          --Disorder in WasZimbabwe.
                          --Statue Of Freaking Liberty completed in Frozen Vines.

                          --Parley with Spanish yields WAR.
                          --Wise men discover GUNPOWDER!
                          --With Steam Engine and Sanitation available, for some reason, the Lagomorph elects Metallurgy.
                          --Klondike copper to Westness nets 160 GP.
                          --Spot Spanish city of Barcelona (1) on Viking land.
                          --Babs evict our exploring Diplomat, sending him all the way to Woebegone.
                          --Thumbing his nose at Oedo, -Jrabbit declares Revolution.

                          1340 AD
                          --Now, which will it be? Fundy, commie, or... DEMOCRACY!!
                          --Ppl declare -Jrabbit President.
                          --Sliders moved to 40 tax, 10 science, 50 luxury in preparation for explosive growth to Many Size Twelve Cities.
                          --Betting on a NONE, we bribe Spanish settler near Aarhuis for 348 GP. And lose that bet...
                          --Upset by non-NONE settler, we kill Spanish ellie outside Aarhuis.

                          While the cute and fuzzy President Bunny would love to personally oversee some city growth prior to instituting a Fundy blitzkrieg, his advisors persuade him to get some sleep and let someone else be Hard Done By for awhile.
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                          RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                          • Confident that the table has been set for success, -Jrabbit summons the Bloody Monk to the Oval Office for induction. he is instructed that there are some settlers to be mindful of, that there's a southern outpost that needs attention, a southern explorer headed to the polar region, and a half-dozen camels staged for delivery. And Vet Frigates can escort themselves!

                            Sorry I went Metllurgy, gang. My plan was to go with Steam Engine and... well, I just mumble mumble mumble...

                            Anyway, the Vikings (and their three WoWs are ripe for the taking, though they are starting to wall some cities. Once this small task is complete, the world is the mollusk of our choice...
                            Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                            RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                            • Did anyone else have trouble opening the lagomorph's zip file?

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                              SG(2)
                              "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                              "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                              • Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                                Confident that the table has been set for success, -Jrabbit summons the Bloody Monk to the Oval Office for induction. he is instructed that there are some settlers to be mindful of, that there's a southern outpost that needs attention, a southern explorer headed to the polar region, and a half-dozen camels staged for delivery. And Vet Frigates can escort themselves!

                                Sorry I went Metllurgy, gang. My plan was to go with Steam Engine and... well, I just mumble mumble mumble...

                                Anyway, the Vikings (and their three WoWs are ripe for the taking, though they are starting to wall some cities. Once this small task is complete, the world is the mollusk of our choice...
                                -Jrabbit,

                                As the Monk shimmers into solid form in the throne room--or should I note, Oval Office--his disposition is thrown for a loop, or two, by the reality belying the pretty words quoted above. 'A small task', 'confident in success', 'many size twelve cities' to-be...from celebrating in Democracy, but with a new fleet of frigates, and eight cities in revolt from a sloppy revolution. Reading the log, it seems everything went swimmingly up to the last turn. Wish I could play from 1320. Oh, well...

                                Since you seem to like giving instructions, however cryptic, perhaps you could instruct this poor Monk as to:

                                1) Democracy

                                How is this a good choice here?? We can't send any unit to the field without disorder--or massive Lux. There is no infra-structure to grow the "many size twelve cities" you imagine, nor food surpluses, or settlers to irrigate. I can only find a handful of cities that can grow, even for one turn, and that needs a bump in Lux.

                                You must have had a higher vision than I can engage that led you to Demo rather than Fundy. Please advise and I will happily bow to your Demo path.

                                2) NON Settlers from bribe

                                An AI settler two tiles from our city and four from his city, and you 'gambled" on getting a NON??!?? I feel pretty sure you know better. Were you sleepy or drunk, or both?? I hope you are not coming down with something. I'll make this work, but 348 gold pieces would build at least two much-needed aquaducts. That's a very special settler--at least he is not theirs anymore.

                                3) 8 cities in disorder after revolt

                                That's a lot of arrows lost because you couldn't be bothered to adjust the city list after going into revolt. MP'ers say they can't risk the time in their game, but that is not an issue here. Perhaps you do not know that after clicking to revolt, you can open the attitude screen and adjust for red city problems. That way, you don't lose anything to disorder and those cities can begin to celebrate a turn earlier. That's a pretty decent reason to handle things, I think.

                                4) Metallurgy

                                Getting to Corp and Freights might have been a better trade oriented path, but there's nothing wrong with cannons.



                                In reading this over it sounds very sarcastic and I don't mean it that way. I just don't get it. Please help me out with your thinking, vision. And BTW, your save was not a save again. It unzips as a zip; but, changing that, after it's been unzipped, to .sav makes it work.

                                Monk
                                so long and thanks for all the fish

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