The Sticky Mouse Senate - Succession Game

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida
yes I know, my "red plan" was weird. But I thought it was funny to try to build this giant unit factory, kind of like giving birth to a new nation.

Don't be ashamed, Julius! Your giant unit factory is fun and might prove very useful if we start really waging war. Think of what an army of 40-50 None cavalry may achieve!

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
La Fayette Nice turns You do like Railroad early
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SG(2)

I hate it when it kills HG, but it brings so much!

BTW this reminds me of people laughing at the AI building so many RR. They should never forget that if the RR linking 2 cities is on the optimal path the trade route is increased by 50% (and many people who build only one RR don't get those 50% because the RR they built is not on the optimal path )

[Scouse Gits]

La Fayette I have not studied the case for very early railroad. The problem is that it kills the Gardens and decreases trade bonuses. My strategy is to overcome the Railroad Trade Gap as quickly as possible. If Economics has been gained before Railways, then the chances are that Darwin's will bring in Industrialisation and Corporation...which restores trade! On a good day Genetic Engineering will be available afterwards which allows CfC...the new HG.

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SG(2)

[Bloody Monk]

Okay, in the interest of moving things along, I'll have a go at it now. Mr N can follow on tomorrow.

[La Fayette]

SG(2)
Your strategy looks very reasonable to me, especially if you manage to get Corporation very soon without delaying RR too much.
IMO there are 2 different problems: HG and Trade.
1) HG
Very useful for easy WLTCD growth, therefore don't discover RR if you plan a good deal of growth within a few turns.
OTOH delaying RR just because you have HG is silly IMO, because RR brings so much and your civ should be happy enough not to need HG badly when you are close to RR.
2) Trade
RR is bad for the one time bonus and good for the ongoing trade routes.
Therefore if you discover RR and don't build RR: it is BAD.
OTOH if you build many RR quickly and manage to delay deliveries until you get Corporation and freights: it is VERY GOOD.
(conclusion: perhaps I am accustomed to build it a bit too soon ... and you a bit too late )

[Bloody Monk]

I set several goals for this round:
1)trade and use bonus cash for buying WOW(3), beakers for advances(6). CfC was a major goal, to get us back on the happiness track, and I rushed Bach's and Darwin as well.

2)roads and rail system...roads were finished on worked squares for the arrows and the rail system started...had to add many Eng'rs, and more are on the way. My thinking is to use them for combat support later, after the rails are down and some mines completed. (Next in line may want to switch a few)

3)build some infra structure for growth that will begin with CfC. There are several cities that will look great with a little attenion.

4) rationalize the Barbs on "Red Island." I left one red city after getting 6-7 horses and 4 Knights from a hut spew, elsewhere. That Island has too good a potential to leave it to the Barbs, IMHO. Can't raise a family with such as that running wild in the streets.

I practiced extensive tickling of trade goods and rushing of white goods. For this reason I put off researching Chivalry to preserve the horse for that purpose. At some point (I think we need to grow first) we need to address our lack of an Armed Force or Navy. Working on Conscription now. I also added dips to our border cities in case the Chins or Babs come calling. Some allied Indians are tromping around Sticky Mouse but aren't in the way yet.

I have the taxes set to 10%; we have been getting more than I could spend from trade. I left a tidy cash balance. If I were to be continueing to play, I was thinking I would build Hoover Dam, so we could add some factories and "muscle up".

I think I have left a pretty good Republic behind as I step down. I am forgoing a log as such because it is pretty much all the same...$$$for Freight to XYZ ...and my typing takes forever. I kept a log by hand if there are questions. This was fun!!

[Bloody Monk]

One more thing- which probably does not need reminding, but here goes anyway. We are at a point in the tech tree where (since we are probably going to war) we need to run down the line to Tactics before we research Auto. In my games I get in such a hurry for Superhighways that I forget that Auto kills Leo. Not a good sequence error to make, from my experience.

Also, there is a Chin Crook following behind our Explorer west of Not Another! on the So. Pole. I was hoping to bribe him when he went past and got to the Carthaginian Islet for another NON unit. But he is slow.

[Scouse Gits]

Sounds great BM - well played! Three Wonders indeed!

SG[1]

[Messer Niccolò]

... and now all the work will be charged on my frail shoulders...
I'll take care of our beloved Republic this evening...

[music/on]
...tu pah dum-dah, money money money,tu pah dum-dah, 4wheeledcamels,tu pah dum-dah, super-superhighways,tu pah dum-dah...
[music/off]

[El Civ]

Well done Bloody Monk. Can someone tell me what "white goods" are?

[Messer Niccolò]

Mr. Niccolò, wears his Armani toga, and becomes the Coolest consul.
It’s year 1680 our power is supreme and we have an excellent reputation (?) 2274golds in treasury, and a good number of cities (28... gosh, ICSers...). Currently researching Conscription Mr. Nik demands to the sages why are we building marketplaces in size 1 town?
Great micromanagements efforts are done to support our beloved Republic. More caravans, where are the acquaducts? We want to grow! So Mr. Nik with the “Las Vegas act” pumps up luxuries to an accettable 50%.
The gov’t points will be:
More tax
More Lux (sorry for the coneheads, they will drive vans instead)
We want Hoover Dam!
More camels or, better, 4 wheeled camels!
... and we want highways to drive our Ferrari!
1680 vans delivered in Bombay: 110+160g
1690 Chinese learn how to make pyrotechnic works
1700 CONSCRIPTION à w e go for REFINING “New Deal Policy” starts 30-20-50, trade expedition starts (7 freights shipchained to India)
1710 We are 9 millions! Trade expedition delivered to Bombay. 1300g earned in a single turn (and beakers too!)
1720 Egypt is a Republic!
1730
1740 REFINING à we go for STEEL (tempted by Fundy ... but I remembered we are and always will be a Rep!) goods to Bombay 212g
1750
1752
1754 French building suffrage...
1756 12 millions Mr. Nik resigns, we have built Hoover’sDam... if my successor wants to swap it for Suffrage we will be able to complete the HD in short time...

I’ve built a lot of Acquaducts, Markets, some courthouses and temples, built railroad system, now terrain needs to be improved and some roads need to be built...

[Messer Niccolò]

... the save...

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I'll pick up the save and play tonight or tomorrow morning

[Bloody Monk]

Originally posted by El Civ
Well done Bloody Monk. Can someone tell me what "white goods" are?

Sorry for the confusion, El Civ. "White goods" is a term of art that I first noticed being used by the Scousers. It refers to buildings and other improvements and derives from the color choice of those things in the city status screen...units are yellow, improvements are white.

[Bloody Monk]

Originally posted by Messer Niccolò
Mr. Niccolò, wears his Armani toga, and becomes the Coolest consul.
It’s year 1680 our power is supreme and we have an excellent reputation (?) 2274golds in treasury, and a good number of cities (28... gosh, ICSers...). Currently researching Conscription Mr. Nik demands to the sages why are we building marketplaces in size 1 town?...

Good job, Mr. Nik!! We are a powerful trading civ, and you have successfully built up our cities and doubled our Population.

As to the jibe about "Market in a size 1 town", all I can say is that it is a matter of what one sees. You saw a dirt-hole, SilkAbby, and I saw a powerful offshore trade city with whales, silk, and fishies. For me it was one turn and buy, three times, send in one of Far Village's two Eng'rs to join; and in six turns it would have had a harbor, Mkt. Pl., courthouse, been size three and ready to celebrate up, up and away. Maybe not sage exactly, but that's why.

There was no good reason to raise the Lux rate until CfC was built which happened just before I finished. Cities could not celebrate until then. I really wanted to take some extra turns to get the rush that rapid expansion causes. God, how I love this game. I'm glad you got to enjoy the party.