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  • #91
    mad mad growth

    STYOM played 10 turns, but IIRC Straybow asked us to play 20 if we could manage it. That's why La Fayette was re-elected much more than De Gaulle, Mitterrand and Chirac put together (president from 1320 to 1764, that is really far from real life for a Frenchman ).

    Anyway, I chose peaceful growth for a change:
    1630: Wool to Teoti...: 152g + Barb King: 150g
    1650: Silk to Teotihuacan: 140g, Silk to Teoti...: 122g, Coal to Teoti...: 116g.
    Steam discovered; RR will be next.
    1660: Silk to Tenochtitlan: 234g
    1670: Pollution in Abington (SG2 was right ...as usual)
    We proceed to massive techgifting to the Mongols (6 techs, reducing beakers/turn from 1540 to 1408).
    Vikings ask for 400g. We say 'No thanks'. They say 'war'.
    1680: One of our exploring caravels sinks an unlucky Zulu trireme. Another one destroys a Viking elephant + catapult along the coast (I grant you this is not really 'peaceful' growth, but we are at war with them, aren't we? ).
    RR discovered, we choose Indust as next one.
    1690: Hut: 50g. Gold to Teotihuacan: 79g; Coal to Tenochtitlan: 194g.
    1710: Cloth = 194g; Hides: 110g; Dye = 210g (all to Teotihuacan)
    1720: Indust discovered ('bye, bye KRC': not great in this game, apart from testing that SG2 is right...as usual)
    1750: Our exploring Galleon sunk by Zulu ironclad
    Zulu and Aztecs sign 'Tenochtitlan Pact'
    Adam Smith completed in Avalon.
    Corporation discovered, Electricity next.
    1754: Celts and Mongols sign 'Khanbalyk Pact'
    Our exploring transport sunk by Viking ironclad.
    1756: Darwin completed in Avalon (wrong planning
    ); provides Elect + Electronics.
    1758: Dye to Tlatelolco : 152g
    1762: Steel discovered; Gravity next.
    1764: Hoover Dam completed.

    La Fayette is so old and so unwilling to be watched on TV stumbling like a pope that he suddenly resigns.
    (nevertheless promissing to be back within a few centuries,
    ... now perhaps this is not quite realistic, but I enjoy the idea:
    1) 'metempsychosis' is quite a nice name
    2) falling in love again... and again... and again... quite a nice idea ).
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    • #92
      Thanks LaFayette - a hard act to follow - but I have DLed and am now on the case -- and I definitely don't promise not to go Fundy

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      • #93
        I played 15. We may want to shorten the rounds or we won't all get to play again!

        STYOM's alphabet jumps from "E" to "W." Very interesting

        SG[1], nothing in the Roolz against Fundies but it is rather unsporting.
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        • #94
          The First Day

          Charles 'Chubby' Chipmunk is elected Prime Minister of Briton. A mild mannered gentleman well known as a devout churchgoer and devoted father to his sixteen children by his wife and four 'wiflets'. All of whom live as an extended family in his converted 12th Century Abbey just outside Daresbury. His political opponents view him as a dangerous enemy, but staunch friend. His political platform came as a surprise to the electorate, for, for many centuries, British politics had centred around domestic issues and whether or not the trains ran to schedule; Chubby opened a new vista and proclaimed the external threats that the happy, peaceful realm of Briton faced. The British people had reacted with unusual unanimity, many pointing the finger and saying "Nnnniiii", and upon his election by a landslide majority had joined Chubby in his Call for Prayer in the Great Chapel at Avalon.
          -------------
          08:00 Monday morning - The Cabinet Office.
          "Gentlemen, I have reviewed your reports; spoken to the two Ambassadors that will still receive us; and consulted with the ArchDeacon of Avalon. The country seems well, the trains run on time. So why was I not told that we had been invaded?"
          This opening was greeted by gasps of shock and horror from the Great and Good who sat around the table.
          "While I was speaking to our 'friend' the Chinese Ambassador he let slip an up to the minute map of his country. Mr. foreign Minister, can you tell us where the city of Tsingtao lies?"
          This dignatory stuttered and referred to his aides, but he had to admit defeat.
          "Tsingtao, gentlemen, lies 3 units directly NW of my own home town of Daresbury and contains a garrison of at least six Chinese units with naval support! You, Sir!", he indicated the still stuttering Foreign Minister, "are dismissed!"
          When the Cabinet reconvened at 10:00 that morning, the Foreign Ministers place was occupied by a short, rotund gentleman with pinz-nee spectacles and a monastic tonsure. He was introduced as the Abbot of Camelot a renowned scholar of foreign affairs.


          ... and I haven't even begun to rant about the tech path and Wonder selection - you guys tried hard no Commie, Fundy or SoL - but for my money - we shall just have to see how the game unfolds ...

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          • #95
            Truly, I didn't mention those Chinese because I just didn't care.
            Don't be frightened 'Chubby' (or don't even act as if you were ). Not only do our trains run on schedule, but they are TGVs compared with the poor steam engines that those guys can offer.
            We haven't yet started to show our muscles, apart from a few vet crusaders that those guys are very much frightened by, but we are 2 techs from Automobile (and researching faster than 3 techs/turn), which means that we might start building battleships already now... and tear them to pieces quite soon, Fundy or not Fundy, Commie or not Commie...
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Straybow
              I played 15. We may want to shorten the rounds or we won't all get to play again!

              STYOM's alphabet jumps from "E" to "W." Very interesting

              SG[1], nothing in the Roolz against Fundies but it is rather unsporting.
              You may want to rename it FormerTintagel instead of WasTintagel, in that case I had intended to capture the city, but destroyed it and rebuilt it instead. So I violated the letter of the rule rather than the spirit

              I played 10 turns just because I didn't have time for more... suddenly rather busy here! 20 is too few at the start of the game, but I felt 10 was about right based on the level of activity on my turns.

              STYOM
              "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

              "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
              "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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              • #97
                BTW 'Chubby', if you really enjoy shivering before going to bed, I must tell you that there are also some Celts on our holy island (somewhere in the South East,... poor Celts,... about 20 techs behind us ).
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                • #98
                  Re: mad mad growth

                  Originally posted by La Fayette
                  1756: Darwin completed in Avalon (wrong planning
                  ); provides Elect + Electronics.
                  I may have played too few turns , named cities out of order and generally mucked things up ... but if Darwin's isn't a science wonder, I don't know what is
                  "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                  "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                  "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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                  • #99
                    Darwin not mentioned in roolz. But it is only 2 techs.

                    As for Tsingtao, the Chinese landed a Settler and a Cat on the promontory between Camelot and Booboo at the beginning of my round. Later a Cat dropped off at the tip of the continent. I had a ship patrolling but the Cat stayed outside Dares' radius. The cat was at the edge of Daresbury in 1300.

                    I didn't think either mattered. A quick peek via cheat says that Tsingtao had been built a turn or two earlier. Mea culpa! Of course it didn't matter until they started using tiles in Dares' radius. How are we supposed to enjoy Daresbury Pheasant if the Chinks are using it?
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                    • Ah come on, Stray -- don't use cheat -- I gave em a couple of techs and swapped maps -- I can already see the Mongs - they are soon for the history books if I have my druthers -- I know nothing of LaFayette's Celts - i guess that will prove a nasty surprise sometime soon -- I haven't actually played at all yet - just checking out the scene before I start -- hope to post this pm (GMT) - OK if I take ~15 turns, I did run short last time?

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                      "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                      • STYOM
                        You are perfectly right: Darwin is definitely a science wonder.
                        No doubt.
                        But it wasn't on the list and this didn't come to my mind at all when playing.

                        (IMO the real impact of Darwin on science is very small. Let me explain:
                        1) Cost of Darwin: 400 shields = 8 camels
                        2) One time bonus for 1 camel rightly delivered = 200 gold (for example). This means 1600 gold (and also 1600 beakers ) for 8 camels.
                        3) Therefore, if beakers needed/turn = 800 (for example), Darwin brings nothing to research and makes you lose 1600 gold ).
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                        • And now the Chinese Policy incident
                          Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

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                          • Shortly to be followed by the 'Refrigeration Incident' - I simply could not resist it - High Priest Chubby....


                            SG(2) even though I'm not playing ... it is worth kibitzing this game to see SG[1] wrecking a perfectly respectable DEMOCRACY

                            @ SG(2) ... Chubby
                            "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                            "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                            • Don't tell me we're not under a powerful democracy anymore
                              It was perfectly adequate
                              Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

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                              • You can have it back, Julius. A successful Fundy regime needs exactly the same infrastructure as a Democracy and can afford it more quickly. Just wait and see ...
                                Trust me

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                                "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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