It's a Mad Mad Scxn Game!

[Straybow]

High Priest Chubby?

Wadja do, run sci down to zero while Fundi then swap back to Dem and restart research on Fridge after getting SoL?

[Scouse Gits]

Fundy - what Fundy?

SG[1]

[Straybow]

LaFayette, Darwin is a better deal than that. Food caravans for wonder production are generally produced in cities that have no open commodity slots, so no trade revenue or beaker bonus is lost.

Git, Nice job taking Tlatelolco and SoL. Glad you finally got to found some Git cities. At this rate of 5 cities per letter LaFayette, STYOM, and Straybow are outta luck unless we sleaze.

I still say Fundi victory is shooting fish in a barrel. Ho-hum.

[Straybow]

Pythonized Play Order

Albatross! ALBATROSS!!

1) Straybow   "Uh... I'm not quite dead, sir!"
2) Julius     They ate Sir Robin's minstrels. And there was much rejoicing.
3) STYOM   "Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcicial aquatic ceremony!"
4) LaFayette   "…and that, my Leige, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped."
5) SG[1] "Zoot!" "No, I am Zoot's identical twin sister, Inge."

Alphabetical means name your founded cities in rough (first letter) alpha order, as an organizational aid. Don't worry about TANSTAAFL coming after Tunafish; don't feel you must rename captured cities.

No Science Wonders (GL, Cope's, Newton's) assures that we will not grossly outpace our competitors. The size of continents should be a limit to early expansion as well.

No City Bribing (modified) applies to core AI cities. The exception: occasional loner AI city (from wandering Settlers the AI likes to send out, or Adv Tribe, etc) far from their core is fair game. Invasion actions shall be limited to one (1) attempt to sabotage walls (or another improvement) per city and unlimited production sabotage attempts.

[Scouse Gits]

Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida
Don't tell me we're not under a powerful democracy anymore

Did I say that Julius?

Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida
It was perfectly adequate

It was, but we don't do adequate, we want superb...

SG[1]

[Scouse Gits]

The Dream ...

1764 == Marketplace in Durance Vile, Dogsbody; Bank in Booboo on You; Stock Exchange in Abington; Theory of Gravity (Why?) -> Conscription (What else?); Chinese invasion of our NW territories temporarily slowed by Engineers and Freights - we have nothing else - not even a dip on the home continent!!!
1766 ==
1768 == Beads, ExMongol-Teotihuacan, 96g; Musketeer in ExMongol beats off a Celtic invasion and becomes vet; Texcoco size 8, bribed (Barbs are fair game right?) 404g with two Musks and a Dip; Hides, Betwixt 2 Bays-Teotihuacan, 112g; Oil, Doorstop-Teotihuacan, 102g; Beads, Escape my Fate-Teotihuacan, 148g; Beads, Brenzaidograd-Teotihuacan, 190g; Hides, Camelot-Teotihuacan, 142g;
1770 == Marketplace in CatchyName; Conscription (and Leo does his thing) -> Fundamentalism (did you ever doubt it?); Chinese Settler cheats past ZoC;
1772 == Guard Hill founded to prevent further Chinese incursions; Dye, Durance Vile-Tlatelolco, 224g; Salt, BeachyFish- Tiatihuacan, 158g;
1774 == Marketplace in Doorstop; Factory in Daresbury; Temple in Catchyname; Git's Port drunk, sorry I mean founded; Git's Whale founded; Beads, Divine Wind-Teotihuacan, 72g;
1776 == Temple in Durance Vile & Dogsbody; Bank in Camelot; Market Place in Beachy Fish; Cruisers in Avalon & Brenzaidograd;
1778 == Temple in Doorstop; Barracks in Daresbury; Fundamentalism -> Refrigeration; Dye, Former Tintagel-Tenochtitlan, 108g; Revolution;
1780 == Temple in Beachy Fish; Factory in Brenzaidograd & Avalon; Fundamentalist government established; Salt, Celtic Relic-Teotihuacan, 90g;
1782 == WLTLPD in Doorstop, Divine Wind, Booboo on You, Brenzaidograd, Abington & Avalon; Market Place in Divine Wind; Khanbalik reduced by naval bombardment and taken, 94g & Chivalry; Aztecs declare war for no obvious reason; Chinese diplomat (sneaking towards Guard Hill expelled; Rifleman claims Daresbury's pheasant with extreme prejudice (I imagine the Chinese will ask us to withdraw - I think not);
1784 == Market Place in Ex Mongol; WLTLPD in Escape My Fate, Dogsbody, Daresbury, Beachy Fish; Bank in Dogsbody; Harbour in Beachy Fish; Stock Exchange in Booboo on You; Barracks in Brenzaidagrad; Hides, Abington, 68g;
1786 == Chinese threaten us with their 'mighty armies' - we remain underwhelmed; Bank in Escape my Fate; Temple in Divine Wind; WLTLPD in Camelot; Harbour in Catchyname; 100g from hut;
1788 == Temple in Ex Mongol; Dye, Abington-Teotihuacan, 244g;
1790 == Chinese sneak attack - unsuccessfully te he ; Gems, Brenzaidograd-Tenochtitlan, 588g; Tlatelolco and Lady Liberty are ours with 473g; Cork with 124g taken; Copper, Texcoco, 146g; Tsingtao destroyed - thus ends the Chinese incident - for now;
1792 == Bank in Ex Mongol; Factory in Divine Wind; Marketplace in Texcoco; Silk, Guard Hill, 80g; Cloth, Doorstop-Teotihuacan, 94g;

Chubby surveys the peaceful British countryside, the celebrating people, the 3000g in the treasury, and turns to his cabinet and says, "The British Democracy is safe in your hands, gentlemen. I shall retire."

[Scouse Gits]

You can have it back, Julius. A successful Fundy regime needs exactly the same infrastructure as a Democracy and can afford it more quickly. Just wait and see ...
Trust me

SG[1]

[Julius Brenzaida]

Don't tell me we're not under a powerful democracy anymore
It was perfectly adequate

[Scouse Gits]

Shortly to be followed by the 'Refrigeration Incident' - I simply could not resist it - High Priest Chubby....


SG(2) even though I'm not playing ... it is worth kibitzing this game to see SG[1] wrecking a perfectly respectable DEMOCRACY

@ SG(2) ... Chubby

[Julius Brenzaida]

And now the Chinese Policy incident

[La Fayette]

STYOM
You are perfectly right: Darwin is definitely a science wonder.
No doubt.
But it wasn't on the list and this didn't come to my mind at all when playing.

(IMO the real impact of Darwin on science is very small. Let me explain:
1) Cost of Darwin: 400 shields = 8 camels
2) One time bonus for 1 camel rightly delivered = 200 gold (for example). This means 1600 gold (and also 1600 beakers ) for 8 camels.
3) Therefore, if beakers needed/turn = 800 (for example), Darwin brings nothing to research and makes you lose 1600 gold ).

[Scouse Gits]

Ah come on, Stray -- don't use cheat -- I gave em a couple of techs and swapped maps -- I can already see the Mongs - they are soon for the history books if I have my druthers -- I know nothing of LaFayette's Celts - i guess that will prove a nasty surprise sometime soon -- I haven't actually played at all yet - just checking out the scene before I start -- hope to post this pm (GMT) - OK if I take ~15 turns, I did run short last time?

SG[1]

[Straybow]

Darwin not mentioned in roolz. But it is only 2 techs.

As for Tsingtao, the Chinese landed a Settler and a Cat on the promontory between Camelot and Booboo at the beginning of my round. Later a Cat dropped off at the tip of the continent. I had a ship patrolling but the Cat stayed outside Dares' radius. The cat was at the edge of Daresbury in 1300.

I didn't think either mattered. A quick peek via cheat says that Tsingtao had been built a turn or two earlier. Mea culpa! Of course it didn't matter until they started using tiles in Dares' radius. How are we supposed to enjoy Daresbury Pheasant if the Chinks are using it?

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Re: mad mad growth

Originally posted by La Fayette
1756: Darwin completed in Avalon (wrong planning
); provides Elect + Electronics.

I may have played too few turns , named cities out of order and generally mucked things up ... but if Darwin's isn't a science wonder, I don't know what is

[La Fayette]

BTW 'Chubby', if you really enjoy shivering before going to bed, I must tell you that there are also some Celts on our holy island (somewhere in the South East,... poor Celts,... about 20 techs behind us ).