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[conmcb25]

Originally posted by H Tower



WHAT???

You have the front commanders selecting the marshal? No, no no! It should be the marshal selecting the front commanders. The commanders should not be playing at politics, they should be planning strategy, and fighting battles! Let the Marshal select the fron commanders. And the CEC or POLITBURO, whichever we decide to call it, select the marshal.

As for the politburo, why not keep it at 5? it could be called the defense council council, with everyone having a vote in the wider politburo (which is basically just the entire Red Front Community)

I dont have a problem with the selections being done this way BUT I would prefer not to limit the Politburu to 5. Lets leave that flexible. That way if we have 7 people interested we have a 7 person politburo. If we have only 5 then we have only 5. I just dont want to set an artificial number before this thing gets going.

Sound OK H?

I still need to put the proposal in one post. I will work on that soon.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Xenozod
Here is one way we could do this:

Keep all of the positions mentioned by the Marshal except for Political Officer, so there will be no ties.

Each position be given deputy officers that can be delegated certain matters. This would allow even more people to participate.

This is just a suggestion, of course.

This is good too!

The 5 or 7 could after elected appoint there own deputies. Then just about everyone could have a "position" whether elected or not. Im just thinking of that ownership issue again. The more someone feels ownership the more someone will participate.

[Xenozod]

Maybe the politburo could have monthly or so(game time) sessions where people could comment on the decisions it makes. I think the politburo would be willing to listen and even change some of its policies, thus enabling everybody to have a hand in the government.

I also support the idea of aloowing members of the politburo to elect their own deputies.

[EZRhino]

Will these new ministers actually play the game? NKVD officer moving NKVD troopers and so on? If this is the case than I am against this. We dont really need to drag out the turns any more. Otherwise it would seem that any powers granted these proposed positions would be overly redundent.

[Xenozod]

I don't think they will actually get to play the game. Also, I think instead of a NKVD officer, it will be KGB.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by EZRhino
Will these new ministers actually play the game? NKVD officer moving NKVD troopers and so on? If this is the case than I am against this. We dont really need to drag out the turns any more. Otherwise it would seem that any powers granted these proposed positions would be overly redundent.

Well I guess we need a crumudgeaon in every crowd.

Is one of the goals to get more people involved or not?

If so what is the problem.

The turns have been moving fine recently. Aren't we supposed to take a little time so people who aren't actively playing can comment? And Im sticking to my directive if you dont play your turn within three days then someone else will play for you. Seems simple enough. If we stick to that we could have a turn done every 4 to 5 days, That gives p[eople a chance to comment. (Thats a good thing right, this being a demo game?)

I had a few telling me we were going to fast.

I guess you can't keep all happy.

But then if you dont like the Politburo then I guess you dont have to run. I was going to nominate you, should I not?

[Xenozod]

If the ministers played the game, I doubt there would be much of a slowdown, as they would probably have quite a bit less to do than the Front Commanders. Unlike a PBEM, a turn every 5 days isn't that bad for a Demo game(especially one with as many people participating as this one.)

[Shaka Naldur]

I like the idea of the politburo more people involved in the game
but for example
the NKVD comander moving his units, will be a mess to do that, and at the end he will move just a few units, I aggre with EZRhino on that

I like all the positions you put for the politburo but I don´t think the powers of the politburo have been described properly

[Xenozod]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the Marshal currently move the NKVD?

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Xenozod
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the Marshal currently move the NKVD?

Only when its a reinforcement. Once an NKVD is "assigned" it belongs to the Front Commander.

I believe the idea of an NKVD guy moving all the NKVD's was discussed and canned as too time consumming.

Only one city is producing them right now and that Saratov (I think, I get that one and Saransk confused.)

[Xenozod]

If that is the case, then instead of a NKVD position, we should go with the KGB one.

[Shaka Naldur]

Originally posted by conmcb25

Only one city is producing them right now and that Saratov (I think, I get that one and Saransk confused.)

you are correct beloved marshall

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
I like all the positions you put for the politburo but I don´t think the powers of the politburo have been described properly

Yep your right , I need to work on a proposal, but unfortunately real life got in the way today and tonight I have to post a turn. (Which takes me a while)

So it will probably be tomorrow at the earliest.

And Im going to come up with Generic ideas right now. We can develop the Politburo over time. I just dont want to lock us into something, come up with a good idea later and then be able to do it because we agreed on something concrete now.

Lets let this develop and see how it goes.

remember we are inventing as we go along and hopefully what we do can become the model for whoever else does a demo game like this in the future.

[H Tower]

Oleg Sorokin graduates from War College

I've finally finished my studies at the War College in Gorki and I'm ready to take over again as Marshal from comrade Knapovich. I'd like to complement him on a job well done in my absence, but I am ready to take command again.

-Oleg Sorokin

[conmcb25]

Re: Oleg Sorokin graduates from War College

Originally posted by H Tower
I've finally finished my studies at the War College in Gorki and I'm ready to take over again as Marshal from comrade Knapovich. I'd like to complement him on a job well done in my absence, but I am ready to take command again.

-Oleg Sorokin

No way! I already sent you to the Gulag for questioning my godlike authority! (God being Lenin of course!)

If you think you can do it try and get me to step down.

The Rodina needs me!

PS Im taking up the blanket collection soon, no hard feelings OK?