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  • #31
    Markos!



    Are you going to change this or not?

    If not, why?

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    • #32
      He's a busy man, he just can't find the time.
      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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      • #33


        Which time are you talking about ?
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • #34
          Originally posted by alva
          Asher, if your going to explain something, do it good
          Don't forget that we are all ignorant idiots, but idiots that are willing to learns

          Why?
          When you boot up your computer with an OS, the clock is then powered by software rather than a hardware clock. The Pentium 4s, being so highly clocked (as in MHz), have what's called propagation delay in the chips, which means timing may not be perfect. Overtime these little imperfections show up in little things, like in software clocks, and result in time slowing down or speeding up on those clocks.

          The Willamette and Northwood Pentium 4s (the stuff available today) have a clock skew of 22ps. The Prescott Pentium 4s (out later this year) have a clock skew of 7ps (lower is better). I'm not sure what AMD's are, I don't think they publicize them.

          Windows deals with clock skews slightly better. How -- I'm not sure. But the effect is more pronounced on Linux systems for some reason.

          What's NTP
          Network Time Protocol. Basically, there's a bunch of NTP servers on the internet (MS has one, US gov't, etc). Windows XP has this feature built in and turned on by default, every now and then it uses NTP to check the time and reset the current system time to correct any clockskew.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #35
            Based on experience, AMD have significant clock skews.
            I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Big Crunch
              He's a busy man, he just can't find the time.
              That's the problem we're asking to get fixed.

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              • #37
                And you obviously didn't pick up on my dry wit.
                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                • #38
                  A little too dry for continentals.........you should have added a BOOM BOOOM at the end of the sentence.

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                  • #39
                    Or at the very least a badoom-tish.

                    If it helps any, I found humour in your comment.
                    I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Skanky Burns
                      Based on experience, AMD have significant clock skews.
                      I wouldn't doubt it. My only AMD system has always had Windows XP with NTP running, I don't notice clock skews...
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Big Crunch
                        And you obviously didn't pick up on my dry wit.
                        Actually I did. That's actually the form of wit I enjoy subscribing to. Maybe I should have added an extra smiley or two.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Asher
                          I wouldn't doubt it. My only AMD system has always had Windows XP with NTP running, I don't notice clock skews...
                          I'm also running XP on my AMD box, but I disabled any automatic time management so that I could check how far off my clock gets. It is currently 4 seconds fast.
                          I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Asher
                            I wouldn't doubt it. My only AMD system has always had Windows XP with NTP running, I don't notice clock skews...
                            I would love to use the NTP server/client I have running on my (Linux) server to update the time on my (WinXP) desktop, but of course Microshaft has a different NTP protocol than the rest of the world. Gates and Co. are the real Axis of Evil. Bomb Redmond!

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                            • #44
                              That's funny, I don't have any problems updating from third party servers.

                              Ever heard the expression PEBKAC?

                              I update from time.nist.gov

                              Edit: Check this stuff out: http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/service/its.htm
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Asher

                                Ever heard the expression PEBKAC?
                                Peter's Excited By Kissing and Cuddling?
                                If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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