Aw, go on Dad. Pretty please?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Please can we have a proper stories forum? We'll look after it, and take it for walks and stuff.

I realise that there's a forum called "Stories and Diplomacy" but it might as well be called "Stories, cheese and Diplomacy" because no-one talks about cheese there either. The icy hand of Dip just strangles them.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hear, Hear!

The insidious hand of Diplomacy strangles the roots of any budding stories that could ever hope to take root.

By the time you figure out a great 3rd part to a story, it is already at the end of Page 3 and you figure no one will read it because every came for the Diplomacy.

[Solver]

LOL, I'm positive it could well be the official spam forum, does any mod ever visit it at all ?

[Boris Godunov]

I concur. Let there be a stories forum.

[Hueij]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I concur. Let there be a stories forum.

Only if Laz will be modding there...

[Ming]

First you say you need to allow story threads in the OTF... because as said in the past, nobody goes to the story forum and you need the traffic of the OTF to keep them going... Yet most story threads that have been started have very little participation beyond a few people.

Now you say you need a seperate story forum because the Diplomacy theads overwhelm the stories... Uhhh, I just looked and there are only 12 active threads in the last 7 days... nothing is being "strangled" in that forum.
If people would get active in stories, it would probably end up the other way around... And I'm still trying to figure out how a story thread could end up on page 3 unless everybody ignored it

I think maybe you need to prove that Story threads enjoy a high enough level of interest to even SHARE a forum before you go asking for a seperate one

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Let there be a stories forum.

Thats sounds very cosmogonic.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Who's the "you", Ming? Not me.

People want stories in the OT because they die in that Diplomacy wasteland. In the OT they slip too quickly.

The AC Fiction and Civ 3 forums prove that a dedicated fiction forum works. However it wouldn't be fair to the regulars there to start putting generalised fiction, participative story threads and short story threads in their forums- I doubt they'd be welcomed.

You've got ready-made examples on this site, Ming. If that's not the proof you need, what is?

[Ming]

Again... you have to prove there is enough interest level in generalized fiction to justify it's own forum first. This has been a long running discussion for many years (and the "you" was meant to imply past advocates of story threads). Never in the past has there been enough interest to justify it... and I don't see anything that is different now.

Granted... it's up the owners of the site to make this call... I'm just stating some of the arguments against it that have been used in the past... and still apply today

And again... "Diplomacy wasteland"... We are talking only 12 active threads in the last week. A story thread would easily stay near the top if people were interested... I don't see how a seperate forum is needed.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Ming
Again... you have to prove there is enough interest level in generalized fiction to justify it's own forum first.

How much is "enough interest". There is one forum that hasn't been posted in for 4 weeks. Yet it retains its status as a forum. If its not being used squatters may move in.

http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=112

[Ming]

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin How much is "enough interest". There is one forum that hasn't been posted in for 4 weeks. Yet it retains its status as a forum. If its not being used squatters may move in.

I wouldn't recommend that unless you have a desire to be restricted

I would have to agree that some of the forums no longer have much activity (if any). In my opinion, I would eliminate them, but that's up to the owners.

I don't see why we need to add to that problem by adding another forum that falls into the category of minimum usage

[H Tower]

ming just doesn't want to be in charge of modding ANOTHER forum markos has asked for volunteers in the past, and even recently let someone else mod it and it should be fine. i also think a dedicated story forum would gain steam if it was presented. Besides, it can't be that hard to add another forum, can it?

[Frozzy]

Hear Hear! Story theads have had heaps of activity, but they fall beneath the other threads, so people can't see them.

Stories and Diplomacy... bah. I agree with Lazarus and Imran. Dips just rule it.

If a volunteer could be found to mod it, the All Systems go IMO!!!

[rah]

I think the occasional one in the OT is better. More people get to enjoy them then. Think of the number of views Laz's most current one would have gotten in a seperate forum vs. what it got in the OT. I can guarentee that I wouldn't have seen it elsewhere. (unless it was in the CIVII MP forum )

It the stories are crap, they will dissappear quickly. If they're good, like Laz's, people will keep bumping them. (proved over the last couple of days)

And I think a good story thread (every now and then) can add to the charm of the OT.

RAH
Just one humble person's opinion.

[spartak]

Charm??????? OT!!!!!!!!!!!!