Is it ok if we speak in dutch about the dutch elections and political issues?

[Ming]

It came into place like most rules... right after a bunch of people thought it would be funny to start a bunch of threads in other languages and swear and insult other people. It was a long time ago... and even now, people still try to get around the rules by doing it. So yeah, because people have acted like spoiled brats in the past, rules had to be put in place. Life isn't fair...

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by MarkG
generic exceptions in "laws" are wonderfull things

The FAQ, however, is possible not to cover all the rules of the forum administration

listen, we ask people kindly not to make their own little national clubs and discuss in english
if that is so hard to accept, i'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

We will accept your decision. You are however a top bloke and we feel you will listen to reasoned arguments. Can't we at least make a claim. The decision is of course yours, but does that mean we can't try to persuade you to the correct our point of view.

besides, it would be unfair for americans, english, australians, etc: they dont have a non-english language to talk to each without anyone else understanding them

So you can understand this statement:

"Got to my mickey, found me way up the apples, put on me whistle and the bloody dog went. It was me trouble telling me to fetch the teapots"

[Saint Marcus]

I have been an ******* here on poly...but never in my own language...

[Ming]

I love the selfish attitude around here... "IF I CAN'T HAVE MY OWN THREAD, THEN TAKE THE FINS THREAD AWAY"...

The answer is no... They are Grandfathered... Deal with it.

[Locutus]

Yes, when *was* this rule of no non-English threads created? I like to think of myself as someone who is and has always been well-aware of all the rules on this site (I've made it my job to know them), but this is the first I ever heard of it.

[Saint Marcus]

The answer is no... They are Grandfathered... Deal with it.

before the rule existed, there were numerous threads in other languages. not just the finnish ones.

[Robert]

MarkG: listen, we ask people kindly not to make their own little national clubs and discuss in english
if that is so hard to accept, i'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

Markos, we don't want to start a club.
We want to talk about dutch politics. Much things I want to discuss contains words that are that specific that I can't translate them.

But I would love it to discuss the current dutch political situation in dutch these days. Things are really upside down over here.

MarkG: besides, it would be unfair for americans, english, australians, etc: they dont have a non-english language to talk to each without anyone else understanding them

yes, english speaking people can't start their 'own thread' in their 'own langauge' but that would only be an argument if we wanted to start a club or whatsover.

But what I want it to discuss specific things in my native language. If I could speak fluently english, I wouldn't have any problems.

Finally Markos, you should never have spoken in greek yourself as well, if this is that important. I know you are above the law. I even want to respect that. But if you want to enforce the law, you should respect it yourself as well.

Last argument, if we want to get around the censor or use unacceptable dutch words, you wouldn't know anyway. Let me give an example, I won't go against the rules, but you will see what I mean:

imagine I talk about dutch politics:

I'm not sure if I will vote for the "Dit is Onzin" party again. My friend "Hierstaatniks" said that in the 80's prime minister "Vloek Scheldwoord" of this party got a big conflict with "Onacceptabel Woord" of the "Vieze Taal" partij.

You get my point?
Now I ask my question again: is it ok if we speak dutch now and than in the dutch election thread. Not because we want to get around the rules. Not because we want to start a cute dutch-club. Not because we do not respect you as a site owner. But just only because we have a very very exiting political situation overhere in the Netherlands.

thanks in advance.

CyberShy

[Saint Marcus]

Yes, when *was* this rule of no non-English threads created? I like to think of myself as someone who is and has always been well-aware of all the rules on this site (I've made it my job to know them), but this is the first I ever heard of it.

probably some ad hoc decision.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Ming
They are Grandfathered... Deal with it.

O-K...so basically we'll just have to find something that's not done before and do it, so we'll be Grandfathered too, right?

[Saint Marcus]

I started dutch threads years ago. probably back in 98 even.

[Ming]

It depends Zop... but knowing you, it will probably be something that just gets you banned

And CyberShy... I will consider your "reasonable" argument and give it some thought. But it's hard to seperate your well thought out post from all the other whining here

[Robert]

I love the selfish attitude around here... "IF I CAN'T HAVE MY OWN THREAD, THEN TAKE THE FINS THREAD AWAY"...

sounds like "The administrators are the owners and they can enforce any rule they want. If you don't like it, you can go somewhere else"

To be honest. I dislike both rules.
I'm sure Saddam Hussein uses the 2nd argument as well oftenly Nah, I don't want to get into the markos is dictator discussion. I take my words back.

[Dauphin]

Can you imagine these rules being applied to the EU commision or the UN?

"You may only speak in English or Finnish, any delegate speaking in another language will be expelled from the assembly".

Actually I think that would be a great UN resolution.

[MarkG]

If I could speak fluently english, I wouldn't have any problems.

nobody is going to ban you if you dont use perfect english or drop a dutch word here and there

Finally Markos, you should never have spoken in greek yourself as well, if this is that important.

please find the percentage of my posts in greek , especially in mostly greek participants threads

Last argument, if we want to get around the censor or use unacceptable dutch words, you wouldn't know anyway

exactly my point!

[Saint Marcus]

But it's hard to seperate your well thought out post from all the other whining here

your the man in charge. you should be able to seperate the two