I think we should revisit the ban on posting PM's

[Alexander's Horse]

The problem I have with this is that currently Pms can be used to bully and harrass people. Usually when someone has posted a PM it is to expose this kind of intimidation.

The Pm's have become a real coward's castle. The intimidatory or harrassing PM is becoming more and more common. The current ban on posting Pm's encourages this.

Finally, by law in most western countries, if someone sends you a communication you have the right to do what you want with it. I believe this is constitutional right in the United States.

Please don't close this thread - I want a view from Mark and Dan on this.

Thanks.

Horsie.

P.S. don't send those Pm's to me. I always post them. The best way to deal with a cowardly bully is to expose them.

[Kassiopeia]

Erm, can the moderators view one's PMs? If not, which I assume, there is always the risk that it's actually not a PM sent to someone, but a forgery.
If it really is cowardice, then why should the recipient bother to read them? Ignore and laugh at him/her I say.

[Apocalypse]

People can PM the mods about offending PMs. Threats are bannable offenses so if they are reported, you should have nothing to worry about as the people who sent them will get what they deserve.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
Erm, can the moderators view one's PMs? If not, which I assume, there is always the risk that it's actually not a PM sent to someone, but a forgery.
If it really is cowardice, then why should the recipient bother to read them? Ignore and laugh at him/her I say.

Moderators can view PMs, 'though Ming would have you believe that he doesn't make use of that power.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
People can PM the mods about offending PMs. Threats are bannable offenses so if they are reported, you should have nothing to worry about as the people who sent them will be what they deserve.

Hmmm... that pretty well sums it up nicely.

If you have a problem with received PM's... bring it to our attention.

PM's are PRIVATE... and as I've stated so many times, all you have to do is use a quote tag, and you can post any lie you want.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Osweld
Moderators can view PMs, 'though Ming would have you believe that he doesn't make use of that power.

Hmmm... you can ask AH. He wanted to use a PM as proof of what he was telling me once. I ASKED for his permission and received it before I went in and looked.
THEY ARE PRIVATE MESSAGES... and I respect that.

[Alexander's Horse]

Private unsolicited messages. But thanks for not closing this thread Ming

The "send the Pm to a mod" solution might work - but didn't you say at the time you mention Ming that you had to access my Pm's to make sure they were genuine? I seem to recall you wouldn't accept a forwarded Pm as proof.

I get priceless Pm's

[Ming]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I seem to recall you wouldn't accept a forwarded Pm as proof.

Well... that was from you

[Rasbelin]

I'm firmly behind the current privacy policy, if the mods do obey it and they may take action if needed.

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
The "send the Pm to a mod" solution might work - but didn't you say at the time you mention Ming that you had to access my Pm's to make sure they were genuine? I seem to recall you wouldn't accept a forwarded Pm as proof.

It isn't really necessary though is it? I mean you can always ask a Mod to access your pm database and act on something you find particularly objectionable ...

Of course, that might entail going through all of ones pm's and I could see how some might find that a little ... discomforting, to say the least.


btw horse I've deleted all of those you sent me - complaining about rah's new moderatorship ...

[Shi Huangdi]

I agree completely with Alexander's Horse

People should NOT have an expectation of privacy for message containing threats. A ban is appropriate, but so is an exposure of the threat so the bully can not get his privacy for the threat as he wanted. Normally PM should have to stay private, but I think there should be an exception for people who want to abuse the PM system for threats. I respect enforcing the site's rules, but I think you should reconsider this one.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I agree completely with Alexander's Horse

[Rasbelin]

Yes, Horsie, someone can even agree with you.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

My stance is as follows.

Send me a threatening PM and I will post it. My resulting ban will be entirely worth it.

[Rasbelin]

Good, RJ! That's good bravery.