the APOLYTON upgrade: known issues

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Re: Browser rendering problems, including page too wide

Originally posted by MarkG
cant be done cause the colors are variables which first have to be read form the database.....

Of course you <em>could</em>, as I understand it each template has a colour scheme associated with it, which you can put into a stylesheet and load as appropiate. I am pretty sure you can use PHP to generate that.

Just a thought.

[Chowlett]

IE 5.5, Win98 SE

I seem to be unable to vote in polls - I just get a white screen with what looks like a valid address, and checking afterwards reveals that my vote as indeed not counted. This happens in all polls, including newly created ones, so it is not that they have been closed.

Also, I am still getting the "Administrator: You MUST revert you modifyoptions template" message when I try to change my avatar (and probably my options - this applied to that as well last time I tried).

[MarkG]

Re: Re: Re: Browser rendering problems, including page too wide

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Of course you <em>could</em>, as I understand it each template has a colour scheme associated with it, which you can put into a stylesheet and load as appropiate. I am pretty sure you can use PHP to generate that.

Just a thought.

actually, the color schemes are independent from the template, and the style sheet info would go to the template. these allows two templates to be combines with three color schemes and produce six styles...

[Colonâ„¢]

Mark, are you aware if this bizarre time problem Eli created a thread about? http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=20387

I just had it again, my post shows up in the thread nearly 3 hours earlier than the actual time I made it. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=20410

EDIT: this particular post has the problem too, it's actually made 3 hours later than the time indicates.

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by Colon
Mark, are you aware if this bizarre time problem Eli created a thread about? http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=20387

I just had it again, my post shows up in the thread nearly 3 hours earlier than the actual time I made it. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=20410

EDIT: this particular post has the problem too, it's actually made 3 hours later than the time indicates.

There is something wrong with the Servertime. Read the news.

I guess it should be corrected by now, but I'm used to delays.

[Martin Gühmann]

How many browser windows shall I open?

Now I opend 17 windows of Netscape 4.5, ME4 and Netscape 6 and I can't see the last post yet. (just four posts on this page). I needed more than a quater of hour to get this post reply page in one of all these browser windows.

Now I got a problem with Netscape 6: Instaed of a page I got this:

BODY { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #dddddd; SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #222222; /* SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: #A997C4; SCROLLBAR-HIGHLIGHT-COLOR: #A997C4; SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: #bbbbbb; SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: #bbbbbb; SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #dddddd; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #ffffff; */ } UL { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } LI { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } P { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } TD { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } TR { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } FORM { FONT-SIZE: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } SELECT { FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee; COLOR: #21182F; } OPTION { FO

And I tried it in another window I got this:

BODY { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #123381; SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #edcc7e; /* SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: #A997C4; SCROLLBAR-HIGHLIGHT-COLOR: #A997C4; SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: #091675; SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: #091675; SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #123381; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #edcc7e; */ } UL { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } LI { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } P { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } TD { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } TR { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } FORM { FONT-SIZE: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; } SELECT { FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee; COLOR: #21182F; } OPTION { FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee; COLOR: #21182F; } TEXTAREA { FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee; COLOR: #000000; } .bginput { FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCCCCC; COLOR: #000000; } .thtcolor { COLOR: #edcc7e; } .invtable { BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F8F8F8; BORDER-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-STYLE: outset; } #all A:link { COLOR: #123381; } #all A:visited { COLOR: #123381; } #all A:active { COLOR: #123381; } #all A:hover { COLOR: #3b1b02; TEXT-

To post something since the upgrade needs a lot of time - a waste of time and of course money you pay while your are online just for waiting = nothing. That doesn't make any fun.

Maybe Markos you should take a second or third look on the code of the forum, before the forum upgrade the speed was no problem. In ME4 I also tried it with cookies - these damn little spies without any effect on the speed (I also enabled them in my profile). For me there is no difference between CTP2 light style and default style. Please fix the code I think this was mentioned here already.

I had three ME4 windows trying to load this page now all of them gave up. Apolyton was great before the upgrade please make it great again and greater.

-Martin

[Martin Gühmann]

How many browser windows shall I open?

Originally posted by MarkG

i prefer to leave it to people to edit one of their double posts. so....

...cut off.

By the way I tried now a call by call provider without a proxy server no problems. But is there another way to switch off proxy server of your provider without using another provider?

-Martin

[MarkG]

Re: Attachements and Great Library

sorry for the delayed answer

Originally posted by SlowThinker
1. May the size limit of a post be increased?

it already is too much (20k)

2. May the size limit of an attachements be increased?

how much do you need?

3. Can I add an attachement to a post with no attachement or to a post which attachement was deleted?

no to both questions

[MarkG]

Re: How many browser windows shall I open?

Originally posted by Martin Gühmann
Now I opend 17 windows of Netscape 4.5, ME4 and Netscape 6 and I can't see the last post yet.

you have 17 windows of Netscape 4.5, ME4 and Netscape 6 opened at the same time and you complain about the speed of the site????????

[Urban Ranger]

MG,

1. Are you using a proxy server? It might be a problem with that.
2. Why would you have 17 windows open? You should know that slows down the server.
3. If your new post doesn't show up try reloading, or forces the browser to load from the server instead of the cache (NS6 only, IIRC). If not flush both the memory and disk caches and reload.
4. That's IE4, not ME4.


Markos,

Can't you have two stylesheets, one for the template and one for the colour?

[Martin Gühmann]

Today something is different I am now 7 minutes online and I came to this page very fast. I also open 12 more windows just to try it out and only two window weren't loaded succeessfully. I opened a new window in the hope this load the page successfully. But it didn't so I opened the next window and so on. Yesterday I was quite annoyed about the slow speed it took me one hour to post my message. But I didn't post that if I am not interesting in this page.

Urban Ranger:

1. I am using a proxy server that's true, maybe it cause some trouble but that shouldn't cause a huge problem like loading times of hours.

2. I usually opend three browser windows in the old forum without any problems. 17 browser windows will slow down the server but not so dramatically that you need hours that a window is finished after 10, 20, ... minutes. I tried it today without any major problems. I don't know why that was working, today.

3. I think my browser would be faster if it would load the stuff from the memory. But yesterday I tried to post here and nothing happend as I clicked on the Submit Reply button. Trying to reload in this state of posting could cause a double post I wanted to avoid this without any success. But I wanted also be shure that this was posted. I had no chance to see it, yesterday, because the loading time was very slow and I only the the message that I was successful to post here at my second trial. Than I gave up. But one favour you could do for me Markos would be to delete my double post here in this this thread that I wanted to avoid without any success. There is no need to have post twice in one thread and it doesn't help us and I didn't made it on purpose.

4. IE4 OK thanks. But maybe I should find another name for it like M$IE4 but that's my opinion about Microsoft and doesn't belong to this thread.

-Martin

[MarkG]

i prefer to leave it to people to edit one of their double posts. so....

[SlowThinker]

Re: Re: Attachements and Great Library

Originally posted by MarkG
2. May the size limit of an attachements be increased?

how much do you need?

There is a new contribution about Settlers and Engineers that has about 300k (and it may grow): 400k would be enough.

(With 200k the article may be split into two parts, but it is not perfect.)

Originally posted by MarkG
3. Can I add an attachement to a post with no attachement or to a post which attachement was deleted?
no to both questions

Would it be complicated to make it possible? Posts longer than 20k cannot be edited and should be transformed to attachements.

[Urban Ranger]

Martin,

1. Depending on status of the proxy server you are using you could be entirely cut off from the Web. It is just one of the factors however.

2. Your speed to Apolyton is determined by many factors, for example speed of the server and network congestion. If you want to know where the bottleneck is use the traceroute (tracert on Windoze machines) command. This will show you the speed an IP packet travels along each hop (link between two servers). The lower the number, the better.

3. It does, but sometimes browsers may not recognise that a webpage has been updated and will load the old version from the memory or disk cache. To stop that from happening you need to flush (empty) the caches.

[johndmuller]

I no longer have width problems with the forum pages, the columns now seem to resize themselves politely. Thank you Mark (&/or whomever else).

Edit: forget the below paragraph as it is working normally today (Sat Jun 9). ; either it got fixed or my computer did; thanks.

I'm still getting load problems with the first ad - it never finds it and after a long (several minutes at least) period, it gives up with the "IE cannot open the internet site .... " message. The fact that I'm still getting it probably means it is something about my browser, etc, as I expect that if everyone had been getting it, it would have had more priority - on the other hand, you have been having more than your fair share of trouble lately, so maybe not. Anyway my system is still:
Win98; 1024x768.
Browser (IE) says it is 4.72.3612.1713 ;SP2;3283;

If that 3 hour time change keeps happenning, what are your thoughts on relaxing the anti-spam thing during those episodes so that people who just posted don't get locked out for 3 hours until the clock catches up. I don't know if you ever get attacked or not, but if you cut out that 45 second restriction, you might find out whether you actually need to worry (if you don't already know).