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  • #31
    Many thanks again, hobbes Looking forward to getting started in game #2 as well.

    *shrugs* as I said in FVC3, I don't care one way or the other, smh.
    I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

    Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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    • #32
      maybe we should find a replacement for gaius marius, i still haven't seen the turn. this doesn't bode well for game one.

      flame, u interested in replacing him?

      shadow wants to have the rules identical for all FV games, so I suggest we allow stockpiling for all games now, and I will change the rules posted at the top, okay?

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      • #33
        Shadow, could you copy and paste the edited rules to the top of game #3? TIA.

        Hobbes, can u also copy and paste the edited rules to game #1? TIA.

        Changes: I added that you can have contact between your own factions and changed it to allow stockpiling in your build queues.

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        • #34
          Sure, I don't mind jumping in for him, smh. Just have whoever set it up send me the password and turn.

          That is, if you still haven't heard from him.
          I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

          Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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          • #35
            cool, still haven't heard from him. i'll tell hobbes, the creator of the game to send you the stuff.

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            • #36
              Got the stuff and have since sent the turn All goes well. Looks like I'll be taking part in all three games now, huh?
              I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

              Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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              • #37
                p.s. since the pks and morganites have the most difficult type of victory, i.e. econ(tons of energy) and supreme leader, 75% of the votes.

                i suggest that if the pks manage to get elected supreme leader, that the game is over, meaning no one can defy the council.

                is this okay with everyone?

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                • #38
                  no one can defy unless they actually have reason to. (ie. atrocity use, PKs constantly backstabbing said faction... but those are the only two reasons I can think of for them to defy the council.)
                  I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                  Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                  • #39
                    so are u saying that the pks can't use atrocities then? also, i thought anyone could defy the council if they wished.

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                    • #40
                      It's generally a moot point anyway, if you can get that many votes then you usually have overwhelming military superiority and resistance is futile.
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                      • #41
                        not necessarily. it just seems kinda odd, that the pks would have to get supreme leader and conquer everyone, whereas, the uop and cyborgs only need to transcend, and it's over, i.e. no conquest necessary afterwards.

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                        • #42
                          Well, that is why the PKs and Morgan have the toughest jobs in these games. I'm in the same boat as you are smh, in fvc1 so I do know where you're coming from... Just be sure you get all the early secret projects that are good for your faction and I think you'll be on to something.

                          Morgan = Merchant Exchange
                          PKs = Empath Guild

                          Then of course be sure you get later ones that compliment each of the different two factions. While Conquest and Trancend people are trying to decide if they want two balanced factions and share the SPs or if they want one super-faction and have it focus all of its energies on SPs is something you really don't have to do as much worrying about with the Morgan-PK team.
                          I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                          Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                          • #43
                            Is FVC2 going to start soon?
                            I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                            Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                            • #44
                              i honestly don't see the point of having a forced victory game where the pks must first get declared supreme leader, then wipe out every other faction. that's just a conquest victory, with an added stipulation.

                              i had no problem with the gaian's/cult using psi units in the later game, so i don't see why you guys can't allow this. plus, 'green' conquest is still pretty vague.

                              it's not like i'm the pks in every game, just one. and i have no problem with you winning after getting supreme leader in that game.

                              that's the whole point of forced victories, otherwise googlie would have said, pks(supreme leader, and conquest afterwards), when he initially brought it up.

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                              • #45
                                *sighs* don't get upset about this one smh! In later game when supreme leader is possible, if/when the PK faction is able to call for the vote with confidence that they'll win with the combined votes (of morgan and PK) they'll have had to have a large army just to defend against the conquest people, and probably had to beat them into not wanting to mess with him... you're right that supreme leader shouldn't have to be conquest... I suppose the backstabbing point is moot in this kind of a game, which leaves the PK needing to stick within the bounds of the UN Charter... otherwise, they certainly haven't been much of a group of diplomats. Then again, if they used atrocities they probably beat whoever it was silly and they'll be afraid not to abide by the council.

                                I'd say we should default agree with the council... I know if I use atrocities in my PK game I'll most likely call for having the council do away with the atrocity ban if I'm going to use them.
                                I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                                Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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