Sparta-Morgan "relations" Part II

[Kassiopeia]

Hah, looks like Morgan is playing into our hands once again. The printing presses shall start pumping out news of this latest aggression from them, the peace terms will tighten up and Googlie's suggested message shall be posted.

[Snoddasmannen]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
The printing presses shall start pumping out news of this latest aggression from them,

Is it time for a new Phalanx soon? We have some new, fresh stories it would seem

[Googlie]

Interesting .............

If we call Lal for any reason whatsoever (I did a parallel diplo re-open, to get his current price for joining us in Vendetta against Morgan - 150 ec's, btw) or to discuss a loan or a tech sale, even after we say no and then sign off he has transmitted his maps - including his juicy Morgan map.

I'll call him in-game next turn

[Snoddasmannen]

Did you PM the Morgans or post in the embassy yet Kass? Just checking.

[Googlie]

Are we just going to let the Morganites open the turn and find that they have lost 2 warships, then start the talks, or advise them in advance?

I'd now favor the former, as we have "lost the high ground" (ie, our "indignation" at finding the Hunter lurking in the fungus just 2 tiles from Minas Tirith is now somewhat "stale-dated"), so I'd let them open the turn, find they have no navy, then respond as the injured party when they come calling

[Kassiopeia]

It's really all the same to me. I couldn't post it yesterday or today due to time concerns, but I could have done it now. However, I think posting about it before they open the turn would go a way to show them that we are still caring about upkeeping our relations - just letting them call us after the fact would be too callous. So I'll post it now.

[Googlie]

Great post in the Embassy

[Snoddasmannen]

Yes, great post
I especially like this part:

It is my sincere wish that these occurrings are the result of a communication breakdown within the Corporation, not a blatant attempt to abuse our desire for peace and prosperity.

Ever hear of a psychological mechanism called freudian projection?

And hey, how are we going to explain our PTS raid and killing thousands of civilians to the Morgans? I guess it'll be an uproad journey negotiating peace from there.

[Modo44]

We're so evil.

[Kassiopeia]

And hey, how are we going to explain our PTS raid and killing thousands of civilians to the Morgans? I guess it'll be an uproad journey negotiating peace from there.

We want to negotiate peace from there? Again, I think we'll paint it as an act of self defence. Like the way in Hearts of Iron 2 the allied Poland declared war on me (Germany) for no apparent reason, so I ended up in a war against the allies, which came to a close when I annexed the United States. That kind of self defence.

[Modo44]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
We want to negotiate peace from there?

I seriously doubt that.

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
Again, I think we'll paint it as an act of self defence. Like the way in Hearts of Iron 2 the allied Poland declared war on me (Germany) for no apparent reason, so I ended up in a war against the allies, which came to a close when I annexed the United States. That kind of self defence.

In real history, Poland was very close to killing Germany, before the change of government due to Pilsudski's death in 1935. I mean on the verge of attacking first. A preemptive action exacly, and with (arguably) good winning chances.

[Kassiopeia]

That Polish attack on me in HOI2 *was* moderately succesful, only by a stroke of luck did I manage to keep the Polish juggernaut from crossing the Elbe over to Berlin. Well played for an AI

[Maniac]

great message

[Snoddasmannen]

I think the fact that the Morgans have still failed to reply to that message is a pretty fair indication that Morgan diplomacy is now only a distant memory.

Anyway, I suspect they were hopeful and not preparing for war, even as late as last turn, so kudos to us in the Junta and to Kassi in particular for keeping up appearances I think you picked your career wisely,as you'll soon have plenty of spare time to polish your medals and yell at recruits

Would there be any point in giving the Morgans a truce offer and offer to withdraw our rovers after the next turn, in exchange for some credits? Or do you all think that is a waste of commlink bandwidth?

[vishniac]

Originally posted by Snoddasmannen
Would there be any point in giving the Morgans a truce offer and offer to withdraw our rovers after the next turn, in exchange for some credits? Or do you all think that is a waste of commlink bandwidth?

Though not accustomed with human diplomacy, I think that, after obliterating 1 or 2 bases with SP, they won't be in the mood for that.
So, short: If they can destroy our rovers, they will, if we can use the rovers some more to do more damage, we must.

We shouldn't leave a wounded tiger behind. Better cripple them definetly.