Sparta-Gaian relations

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Maniac
So no one's interested in offering someone else the same trade but with a bigger no-trade clause?

(Just inquiring, I'll of course agree to whatever the Junta decides.)

Had we had the clause in from the very beginning and had we not just added it later on, we could have a chance at doing that without pissing the Gaians off further. Now, however, if we are to keep our relations to the Gaians warm, we'll have to be more careful with the shenanigans. We could, later on, mention to them that "you know, we COULD have done this, but decided not to because you're so nice guys" if needed.

[Kassiopeia]

Besides, now that we have contact with Morgan, we can trade them GS within the five year period. Unless they think they can get a more valuable trade from the Gaians in five years, it depends on whether they find the time crucial. IMHO we certainly should have IndAuto ASAP.

[Maniac]

Yeah too late to change it now again I guess.
This does mean we'll have to sell gene splicing to the Morganites and Gene + DocMob to the Angels as soon as possible, before they find out they can get it from the Gaians in five years.

[Kassiopeia]

It was our mistake, we should just pay the price.

However, I do think this would further the goal Zeiter proposed, one I agree with - appearing to be mostly harmless. If we aren't too aggressive with the trades, we won't appear to be the devious, conniving, powerhungry bastards we are.

[Kassiopeia]

Of course, NOT appearing powerhungry isn't as easy in this game as it was in Europe in the 1800's. Conquering all of the world and being the only nation in existence has never been feasible, but in a SMAX game without allied victory, every alliance you make must be broken sooner or later. Everyone has but only one goal: sole victor.

[Googlie]

Since most of us are on line, why don't we meet in the Command center (the federation chat room?)

it's here:

http://googlie2.tripod.com/thespartanfederation/id14.html

I'll go there with one window and see if anyone else turns up (I can play the turn on my pc at the same time and get instant feedback from y'all)

[Kassiopeia]

Okay, all the Gaian tech trade is missing is our final agreement. We should, then, give them the techs, and click "accept" on the diplo window, as I take it. They're still discussing the commlink exchange, we can probably postpone that until the next turn?

[Maniac]

Hmm, I can't seem to access your site right now.

[Googlie]

I had to drop my Zone-alarm firewall to bring up the enter button, then restore the wall after i logged on

[Maniac]

Googlie, perhaps a stupid question, but is it possible your site can only handle a few people visiting at once? I don't have any problem with another site.

[Kassiopeia]

I am inside the Command Center.

Am I to take it I can tell the Gaians that we are a-ok with the trade this turn? I see no reason why not, now that we have agreed to the proposal at hand. (Trust me, I would have loved to have the Morganites and Gaians compete against each other for GS, but with our earlier fubar we have very little breathing room with the Gaians. )

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Maniac
Googlie, perhaps a stupid question, but is it possible your site can only handle a few people visiting at once? I don't have any problem with another site.

Both kass and I are having trouble too, as we're getting booted out every 5 minutes.

we have that problewm with the Aimoo boards as well (their chatrooms) - for freebies we are getting a limited service, so it might be that the # visitors is also restricted..

[Kassiopeia]

Just a proposal, but if you downloaded and installed an irc client, we could meet at an irc server I am administrating - that of CGN forums, the address is irc.civgaming.net

[Googlie]

I rthink I tried that for the 'Poly chat room, and it too got nflict with my Zone Alarm firewall

[Maniac]

I'm there now!