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  • #16
    Sounds good.

    Is body building a part of the Spartan training routine? I mean, would Ahnold make a good Spartan?
    I always thought a Spartan would undergo more of an Olympics training routine, with a lot of running and agility training. Of course, not that having Ahnold-like muscles would be a bad thing for a Spartan to have...

    "I crush you puny Morgahnite weenies with ze flexing of all ze muscles in my gigantic ahm around your puny little capitahlistic heads."
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    • #17
      Doing exercises with as main purpose to grow a better-looking body or so would indeed be somewhat un-Spartan IMHO. However, besides as you say endurance and agility training, training to get stronger muscles with as goal to perform better in battle and being more able to survive in Planet's wilderness would be Spartan-like I think.

      "I crush you puny Morgahnite weenies with ze flexing of all ze muscles in my gigantic ahm around your puny little capitahlistic heads."

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      • #18
        Nice idea Maniac.
        So then we would only need to top that thread, the map thread (cuz it doesn't get many posts bumping it) and the turn reporting thread?

        Sounds like a plan.
        I'll sticky that one as soon as I see it.
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        • #19
          From Wikipedia's Sparta

          Military service and training

          In the powers exercised by the assembly of the citizens or apella we cannot trace any development, owing to the scantiness of our sources. The Spartan was essentially a soldier, trained to obedience and endurance: he became a politician only if chosen as ephor for a single year or elected a life member of the council after his sixtieth year had brought freedom from military service.

          Shortly after birth the child was brought before the elders of the tribe, who decided whether it was to be reared: if defective or weakly, it was exposed in the so-called Training of Citizens.

          Thus was secured, as far as could be, the maintenance of a high standard of physical efficiency, and thus from the earliest days of the Spartan the absolute claim of the state to his life and service was indicated and enforced. Till their seventh year boys were educated at home: from that time their training was undertaken by the state in the agoge system and supervised by the paidonomos, an official appointed for that purpose. This training consisted for the most part in physical exercises, such as dancing, gymnastics, ball-games, etc., with music and literature occupying a subordinate position. There were also contests to see who could take the most severe beating. From the twentieth year began the Spartan's liability to military service and his membership of one of the dining messes or clubs, composed of about fifteen members each, to one of which every citizen must belong. At thirty began the full citizen rights and duties. For the exercise of these three conditions were requisite: Spartiate birth, the training prescribed by law, and participation in and contribution to one of the dining-clubs. Those who fulfilled these conditions were the peers, citizens in the fullest-sense of the word, while those who failed were called routtoves (lesser men), and retained only the civil rights of citizenship.

          Spartiates were absolutely debarred by law from trade or manufacture, which consequently rested in the hands of the perioeci, and were forbidden (in theory) to possess either gold or silver, the currency consisting of bars of iron. Wealth was, in theory at least, derived entirely from landed property, and consisted in the annual return made by the helots who cultivated the plots of ground allotted to the Spartiates. But this attempt to equalize property proved a failure: from early times there were marked differences of wealth within the state, and these became even more serious after the law of Epitadeus, passed at some time after the Peloponnesian War, removed the legal prohibition of the gift or bequest of land. Helots were ruthlessly controlled, primarily through the secret police or Krypteria

          Later we find the soil coming more and more into the possession of large landholders, and by the middle of the 3rd century s.c. nearly two-fifths of Laconia belonged to women. Hand in hand with this process went a serious diminution in the number of full citizens, who had numbered 8,000 at the beginning of the 5th century, but had sunk by Aristotle's day to less than 1,000, and had further decreased to 700 at the accession of Agis IV in 244 BC. The Spartans did what they could to remedy this by law: certain penalties were imposed upon those who remained unmarried or who married too late in life. But the decay was too deeply rooted to be eradicated by such means, and we shall see that at a late period in Sparta's history an attempt was made without success to deal with the evil by much more drastic measures.

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          • #20
            shouldn't the Roll Call be updated to the first post of this thread?
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            • #21
              i havent read the entire thread but the suggestion for not going over the rank of colonel is because of your faction leader is a colonel it would be kinda weird if someone would have a higher rank then ' her '
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              • #22
                WHEN DO I GET MY UNIT TO COMMAND AND USE FOR ILLIGAL OPERATIONS!
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                • #23
                  I want a unit roo to go and attackt eh MOrgan mastranerrt!

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                  • #24
                    "Googling" military rankings, I came across this (first item in the results) - a sad day for Scottish military historians:

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                    • #25
                      I've finally read up on the US military ranks. I'm not saying we should be using them like them, but it does give some guidelines. I am not aware if the following things are true for other nations' military, Andemagne may be able to fill in on the Finnish Defence Forces.

                      For instance, a Lt. Colonel can be called just "Colonel", meaning we could refer to Maniac as "Colonel" if we so wished.

                      Also, a Colonel is usually an officer of some speciality, like artillery, but from the next step, Brigadier General, they are expected to be an officer who deals with all manners of disciplines in his own branch.

                      Therefore the choice of the game makers to make Santiago a Colonel is rather interesting, perhaps the Spartan Way is not to have pompous officers of the General level at all? Who knows.
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                      • #26
                        Job vacancies! Good pay!

                        Commanders are requested for:
                        • The gun skimship SCC Invincible
                        • The Battle Ogre Shrek
                        • The former of SC3 (with opportunity to baptize the unit - give it her name)
                        • Next year: scout rover

                        Candidates please report to the command center.
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                        • #27
                          Presumably the commander of the Former would become head of the Engineering Corps? ...........

                          ......... and likewise the SCC Invincible's Commander would head up our fledgling navy (I need to know who to argue with in Junta sessions for protection for my Navy Seals [foilprobes]) (And I thought Diss wanted that job anyway?

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                          • #28
                            If no-one else wants to take responsibility for terraforming, I'll gladly pass over command of Rolling Thunder and take on the mantle of the Engineering Corps
                            Last edited by Googlie; July 27, 2004, 21:29.

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                            • #29
                              Rollcall:

                              Andemagne
                              ChairmanSlick
                              DeathByTheSword
                              Dissident
                              Drogue*
                              GeneralTacticus
                              Googlie
                              Jamski
                              Kassiopeia
                              Kody*
                              Maniac
                              Master Zen
                              Method*
                              Ogie Oglethorpe
                              Primus Pilus
                              Rynn:**
                              Skanky Burns
                              Snoddasmannen
                              Snowflake*
                              Zeiter
                              Zero

                              * Moderator
                              ** DL

                              ACDG3 Spartans (22)
                              ACDG3 Gaians (23)
                              ACDG3 Morgan (26)
                              ACDG3 Data Angels (14)

                              Issue 2 of Spartans, Gaians and Morgan are on the ACDG3 front page, all having a reply within the past two days. The Data Angels have not produced any news items.
                              Last edited by Skanky Burns; July 28, 2004, 10:50.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Maniac
                                ...[*]The Battle Ogre Shrek
                                ...
                                I'd be happy to volunteer for that job

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