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[Kataphraktoi]

some of my intended moves-just looking at turn also havnt looked at army ops yet

kodycryptor-can rush chopper for 30 EC,although id just as soon wait another turn
RPS makes a drop-trannie,whats the plan with this unit?
im all for changing RPS to a supcrawler, it only has 9 mins
safe house city,another crawler,crawler thats done on mins
googplex could rush a CP for 12 ec. also the new base could use that 1-3-1 forest goog wouldnt be working to kickstart crawlers and goog would still have 12 min with that new crawler
fungal heights-rec tanks. these could be got in 2 turns with some EC
gemka's loft-15 EC to rush a CP
delerium camp could rush a rec commons on the cheap
yang mine-scout patrol in 1 turn,for upgrading to 1-3-1


switching to FM?i wont do it this turn,but may i suggest to herc that may be a good plan.with some switching around we can run without revolts and get more ec for devolopment

[Hercules]

I am back so will take your suggestions on board as a dictator does.

Btw I want to switch to FM but need full clean or Punish sphere. I feel we need one of these: but it can be time consuming getting attack units re-based.

[Hercules]

We also have until the 22nd to submit our turn. So no rush; but I would like to get our turn in fairly soon.

I think interest in the game is fading all round.

[Kataphraktoi]

ah k so you got it handled

i was understanding you were gone 16-20 nov

[Mart]

it's civ4 thingy

I think soon we will observe return of smacers to smacx, which is still much better game compared to civ4 (unfrtunatelly...)

[GeoModder]

You're biassed by your slow experience on C4, Mart.

[Kataphraktoi]

i would say without having played it smac is better than c4c4 just the strategy discussions or shallow in c4 and keep mentioning the games greatdepth as a endpoint on many posts(their alot of total noobs imho)

[Mart]

Nope, Geo.
If civ4 is that good game, it is only that it is not completed, or like half-made.
Like civ3 was released too early, the same story holds for civ4. And this is not about number of bugs/hardware issues.
The design. For me civ4 is not revolutionary enough. I lack new concepts. Promotions, UN Council or religion will not do it.

[GeoModder]

True, C4 is more an assembly (though a nice looking one) of existing features from other games then new things. And though the religion addition is quite good, it is in essence bland compared to what it could become qua diversification.

As always, revolutionary changes in gaming will have to be done by borderline people/companies. Firaxis has become to "established" to risk that. Basically, they are too conservative.

For the record, I have to say that the possibility to shape the game in other directions seems good, and if it proves to be as good as it looks now, that would be enough for me.

[Hercules]

Meanwhile end turn 2197 to Forest, Kata and Mart.

Sunspots. A nuisance.

We are still in treaty with Yang. He will have Fusion in 6 years, joining Gaians and Morgan and then so will we (and Spartans- if they don't have it already).

[Mart]

The drop transport is ready. Hercules, have you tried using it in other save game maybe? One thing is, that any unit loaded on such transport looses any move points during drop. Then the base can be established the next turn. Good thing is that drop transport can return just after new base is established.

[Hercules]

No I haven't used one yet.

I see the turn is in.

[Mart]

Hercules, can play the turn now?
If not, I will play within an hour.

[Hercules]

sending now

[Hercules]

Also end turn 2198 sent to Forest, Kata and Mart.

Gaians have Fusion,
Morgan will have it next 2199
Yang 5 /6 years from now.