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  • Originally posted by Hercules


    Just one thing. Gaians have made a sizable jump in the charts. And Gaians (under BinT and Chaos and using ICS) is a formidable outfit. Oh and especially with clean ability.
    i hadnt noticed this , true. so they are not nearly as weak as i percieved them to be
    if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

    ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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    • Well, Maniac dropped a shell in the Peace Conference thread. We're accused of 'stealing' 200 ec's from 'their' University.

      This means, taking Spartan methods into account, that they're gearing up to show us an example if we don't bind in.

      I'm starting to think that that assault on the Hive is a bit of misconception, for compared with their assault on the PK's there's not much material to be seen around those bases. They might actually still be assembling a force near our territory, and those cruisers we've seen were just testing the waters.
      He who knows others is wise.
      He who knows himself is enlightened.
      -- Lao Tsu

      SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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      • I like Marts idea also.
        You have two choices in life; Explore and learn or Vegetate.
        There is a reason for everything.

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        • Focus people! Spartans made an accusation on us, we need to address that!
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

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          • The Spartan Federation & The University Protectorate
            versus
            The Data Angels

            Subject: Illegal loan of energy credits

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            While the University Protectorate can according to the MY 2154 Treaty not conduct any independent foreign affairs, they have a considerable economic and political freedom concerning internal matters. For example while many sectors of Spartan economy are government controlled, the University Protectorate has a free market with a privately-owned bank system.

            It appears that the Data Angels have made abuse of this. Crypteia has after years long thorough investigation concluded that 200 energy credits has been stolen from our Protectorate. This was done by Angel operatives, who registered a fake firm in the University. These operatives then loaned 200 energy credits from the largest bank in the University, Minerva Bank. Using frauded documents, Minerva was led to believe investing in the firm would be money well spent.

            Nothing could be further from the truth. As soon as the Angel operatives had acquired the desired 200 credits, they set up an overseas bank account and gradually sneaked the energy in small amounts to Angel lands. As the University security can be lax from time to time, this went unnoticed until the Spartan elite Crypteia divisions noticed the missing energy during a routine check.

            Here we present proof of the crime committed. Naturally top secret information has been omitted for the public eye.



            As the Federation has repeatedly stated we would not allow unapproved contact with the University, there is no excuse for the Angel behaviour. Therefore we demand immediate repayment of the outstanding loan to the University Protectorate.
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            I would say to this that the distruction of the 2 probe teams and the fact that University territory is not concoured territory allowing for free trade.

            These two things combined cancelled the agreement as stated in sub section f or paragraph 3 on page 67 of the loan agreement.
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            • Yes! It was a gift in disguise from the good Provoost to cover our losses when a trigger-happy military unit killed our exercising operatives.
              He who knows others is wise.
              He who knows himself is enlightened.
              -- Lao Tsu

              SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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              • well declare war on them then.

                our call it a gift.and then declare war over the false accusation. or eat a xenobanana
                if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                • want to hear a few more yesses before sending this to them in a post to their post.
                  You have two choices in life; Explore and learn or Vegetate.
                  There is a reason for everything.

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                  • Dear Spartans

                    Although previous to the attack on our two teams on manuvers we did owe you the 196 ecs.

                    Acording to sub-section f of the agreement "The contract will become null and void if either party attacks the other and immediate repayment of the entigre sum owed upon the Data Angels attacking the Spartans."

                    This along with the fact that the University is not conquored territory leaves us with the belief that no payments are required by the Data Angels.

                    For freindly relations let us work on a payment schedule of the remaining principal of ???.?? ecs with the same sub-section f in the aggrement.

                    ForesterSOF
                    Data Angel Ambasador
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                    How is the wording.
                    You have two choices in life; Explore and learn or Vegetate.
                    There is a reason for everything.

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                    • I would not agree for the repayment that fast.

                      1) We in fact received 118 EC (something like that). 200 EC is with interests

                      2) I would check how exactly the treaty between Spartans and University is formulated. Maybe it is still within their Law.

                      3) We can always say, that it is Zakharov, who broke their law by lending us money. After all for 118 EC he will receive 200 EC.

                      4) At some point Spartans told us, that they wanted to stimulate University economic growth. According to our economic analysis, this loan is steady income for University and with interests is beneficial for both University and Spartan Federation.

                      5) Loan is repayed to University constantly. Trying to take 200 EC from us now, will in fact make it 400 EC payment. So if they kill University now we might agree to forward the balance to them, otherwise we pay to University at the moment.

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                      Forester, I think we should go this line. That this is ok, and in fact beneficial for them, both University and Spartans. and according to what they wished and stated before
                      If they still insist, I would propose some other side to mediate this matter.

                      So some answer to this might be formulated like that.
                      Mart
                      Map creation contest
                      WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                      • Originally posted by Hercules
                        Promise to send AAA unit shortly...
                        Ok, I think we might then go this way. We send them drop scout now. Tell that they can receive from us AAA any time now. We also ask that they do not trade it or give to Spartans or Morganities.
                        Is Cent Medit any use to us btw except for IODs?.
                        Empath citizen. Small improvement, since replaces doctor. +2 economy additional.

                        Gaians are 2 years from tech discovery so will not want new tech until after discovery.

                        Let's remember another point. AMA is on the road to Fusion. Early acquisition of Fusion can help us catch up with Spartans and they longer other factions don't have it the better for us ,which is also why having the HSA is important to us.
                        I will discuss with them the issue of our mutual possibility to get Fusion and Orbital Spaceflight next.
                        Mart
                        Map creation contest
                        WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                        • 4) At some point Spartans told us, that they wanted to stimulate University economic growth. According to our economic analysis, this loan is steady income for University and with interests is beneficial for both University and Spartan Federation.
                          118 EC now is worth hundreds or thousands later on. saying this stimulates univ growth is BS but good BS for diplomacy reasons

                          For freindly relations let us work on a payment schedule of the remaining principal of ???.?? ecs with the same sub-section f in the aggrement.
                          absolutely not. its my understanding we already are paying.

                          why dont we just get it started and break off diplomatic contact. of course this is what they desire...we just need a few turns to get airsuperiorty units out. just keep em talking for a few turns with lots of hard to understand messages and BS remember if your at war,you dont pay loans....get a EC\turn agreement if you have to
                          if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                          ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                          • There was also the fact that they broke an agreement on AV.
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                            • This is proposed message to Gaians:
                              To Gaian Union,

                              We will prepare in 2186 a drop scout unit, which will then be dropped in 2187 to your base within range inside the Mysterious Ring of Monoliths. You would then upgrade it to drop clean scout in 2188 and drop it back to our GeoMatrix base in 2189. Using scout units for this purpose will be much cheaper endeavour and is possible sooner.

                              We can prepare and drop an AAA unit for you at the time of your convenience.

                              We would like to ask you not to give or trade the drop ability to other factions, especially Spartans or Morganities.

                              Research Cooperation Offer

                              We would like to inquire you, if you would be interested in mutual effort to acquire 2 technologies in the closest time:
                              - Fusion Power
                              - Orbital Spaceflight
                              As you know, we will have soon have the technology of Pre-sentient Algorithms. This will enable us to research in the next time both mentioned techs: Fusion and Orbital. Would you be interested in researching one of these technologies? We would research the other and after completion we would exchange them.

                              Our analysis indicates, that after you discover Centauri Meditation in 2188 and you receive 2 technologies from us:
                              - Pre-sentient Algorithms
                              - one tech (Optical Computers or cyberethics for example)
                              you will be able to select Orbital Spaceflight as your next research technology.
                              We would research Fusion Power as next.

                              Sincerely,
                              Data Angels
                              IT Mart
                              Mart
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                              • Also, since we appear to have troubles with Spartans, we may keep more military in our territory:

                                - Drop AAA will be moved next turn to EM
                                - Two F-6 will be kept in EM.
                                - Possible reinforcement of Mart's Pact
                                - We should start building more AAA units, F-6 and BR-6
                                Mart
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