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  • #31
    Looks like we're the last faction having EnvEcon. All the other teams cannot be offered.

    O, new page.

    Resume from my former post:

    Yang refuses to talk.
    Don't forget to found the new base.
    He who knows others is wise.
    He who knows himself is enlightened.
    -- Lao Tsu

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    • #32
      Or Gaians are following a completely different research path, or they're really backward... 4 techs we can offer? (+ Lal's commfreq)
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      • #33
        We can offer EnvEco to Gaians. And I think this may be smth they research
        Should I ask, if they want it this turn?
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        • #34
          No deal, we cannot offer EnvEcon to them in the diplo screen (now)... unless we can only offer this tech from next year on due to the game mechanics of course.

          Something else: Lal does not have IntelInteg. We could outsmart the Spartans by this (Lal and Spartans are pacted as well).
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          He who knows himself is enlightened.
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          • #35
            you mean, trade Int Int to Lal before Spartans can do it?

            Also the new base is going to be harbour - we need to enter that tile between two bonus tiles.
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            • #36
              I thought we still had to give them 2 techs? Or am I wrong? What's the balance between us and the Gaians and Spartans regarding giving techs back for what we received?

              Atm we can offer AdapEcon, OptComp, ProgPsych and of course HEC to them.
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              He who knows himself is enlightened.
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              • #37
                The Cyberethics deal failed. Gaians and Spartans had communication problems effectively blowing the deal off

                We have to give Gaians one tech only
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                • #38
                  If the new base has to be a harbour, why not founding it on the nut tile? It will grow much faster then and has a min tile nearby for quick production.

                  And how many techs to the Spartans? IntelInteg only?
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                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                  • #39
                    Good idea, about that nut under the base. We should propose that for the next turn to Hercules.

                    Yes - we have to transfer IntInt to Spartans only. As far as I remember.
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                    • #40
                      We could do it the other way around as well of course. But I don't know if we'll lose a min if we found a base on the min tile (but that could be done right this turn, the cp has still 2/3 mp left).
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                      • #41
                        I do not think we will loose the mineral - since it is on the flat terrain and moist. Just straight 2 more minerals there. The problem is this base will be for 2 turns exposed to probing...

                        COP from SH is on its way, but will arrive in 2163
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                        • #42
                          So the plan is to wait founding it 'till the probe is there?

                          In that case, definitely found the base on the nut tile. We could already place the scout and the cp on it.
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                          • #43
                            there is no hurry, since in
                            2162 - they enter
                            2163 - establish base and COP arrives

                            Now one of the units or even both might not enter
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                            • #44
                              If the first one can enter, the second is bound to do so as well.

                              But you're right, there's no rush.

                              How's the rest of the turn going?
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                              He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                              • #45
                                Excellent - we got 147 EC more. We got Env Eco. I hurried additionally network node in Gplex and Recycling tanks in HG.

                                Our research is now "smoking" 82 labs/turn.
                                We get like 31 EC from commerce. total is +27 EC/turn, as for the energy

                                Overall the turn is now ready, I think. I will check it once more.
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