Running A Data Angels faction option up the flag pole

[Maniac]

Originally posted by mart7x5
I have read that there is not many people wishing to join Angels. I consider joining this faction, just need a little input what style of play it will be?

mart7x5, please join the Spartans! The Data Angels already have the most members of all factions! IIRC:
FlameFlash
foolish_icarus
GeoModder
Hercules
HongHu
Mellian
MrWhereItsAt
Trithemius
UnOrthOdOx
And it has been told that all previous pirates are thinking of joining the Data Angels too.

[GeoModder]

4 of names in that list you put there are former PEACE members.

[foolish_icarus]

Originally posted by Trithemius


Hey! You didn't get my Cryptonomicon reference!

sorry, haven't read it.



IMO, the whole point of this faction is fluidity and dynamism, so we might end up doing multiple things in different ways at different times--they are all viable, but we shouldn't lock ourselves in at this point.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Neither WIA or I have joined yet. blatant propoganda.

[Snowflake]

I like the Mercenary - the pure hackers' way idea. Although we do need to think about how we should go around that MP rule that you have to declare vendetta when you perform a probe action other than infiltration.

Can we suggest that the rule to be amended so that any such actions must be informed to the target team and it gets a chance to decide whether they will declare vendetta to us?

[Snowflake]

Regarding neutrality and wars, I think we should revenge if a faction does not honor the end of its deal with us. It may be through military action, or other means. We should not strive to win by conqure, not that it is the Data Angels specialty anyway.

We probably need to ask the other teams if they are kind of receptive to this idea also.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Hercules
Also read Trithemius ideas posted as an attachment. I can see that working well with the DA's.

These ideas (Trithemius's) would need to be in some way compatible or workable with UnOrthOdOx and MWIA concepts. It wouldn't be a good idea to have players join only to discover their desire for complete neutrality was at odds with a sizeable number who were more open to all ways of succeeeding.

I've read Trithemius's attachment. It added to my understanding of the Data Angels. I do not feel that his idea and the "mercentary" concept conflicts with each other necessarily.

I still have some questions. One is I'm not sure what Trithemius means by new blood from other factions. Are we talking about defectors here?

Second, I'm not sure how should we roleplay the subfactions. I think we may not have enough players to form subfactions and create internal politics. Rather we may need to focus on more coordinations. My view is that each datajack should be responsible for one aspect of the game, where they could form decisions through their own calculation, or information gathering from the members (polls), and then they load their decisions to the system where the head system administrator make the final finetune so every piece fits together.

We still need players with good gaming skills, like buster, kody, minute mirage and others. If we only have roleplayers we will likely not faring well as a mercentary team (if this is what we want). We have to be not too far behind at least in some areas for our services to be sought for.

[Mart]

I like the overall idea of Data Angels. I would like to join this faction.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by HongHu
Can we suggest that the rule to be amended so that any such actions must be informed to the target team and it gets a chance to decide whether they will declare vendetta to us?

So you mean that during an Angel turn a probe action is done, and we warn the 'victim' team of the sort of action and location, and they then decide on the spot if our probing requires a vendetta declaration or not?

That sounds good to me, but our probe actions will need quite some organizing beforehand then.

[foolish_icarus]

IIRC notification of location and type aren't required, just an announcement that the action actually took place

[Mart]

So when the game gets rolling?

[Hercules]

Originally by Honghu.

We still need players with good gaming skills, like buster, kody, minute mirage and others.

From what I 've seen Honghu you are an able player ( OK apart from that fatal mishap), Shucks you are away ahead of me in our joint MP games.

[GeoModder]

/me is curious.

Mishap?

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
What's so wrong with being neutral? Just make sure you're the high bid if you're going to be needing the services.

There is a difference between neutrality and between having no ideology. I personally am not really keen on the whole "mercenary" idea myself, to be honest.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by Hercules
That base transfer ( the mercenary idea) approach also means the 'new owner' will go into vendetta for 1/2 turns in order to take over the base.

We could just sell captured units and intelligence information, no need for us to get involved in the nitty-gritty of actually taking bases for people (except for ourselves ).