Drone Diplomatic Exchanges

[Maniac]

I can't recall if there was a previous drone-related thread, so I'll just start a new one. How about this message?

Edit: I rediscovered the old thread here.

Greetings most honoured Foremen Buster, Mongoose and Jtsisyoda,

It has been a while since we last talked. Due to the decrease in activity our External Affairs Office has been more or less inoperational. For that reason only now we noticed you have knowledge of High Energy Chemistry. That is a very dangerous technological field, and treated with utmost care and secrecy (as far as possible) in the Consciousness. After all, it has far-reaching military consequences, and could destabilize the world if everyone had access to it.

For that reason the External Affairs Functionality was wondering if you would be willing to sign a non-proliferation agreement regarding High Energy Chemistry? We would then both agree not to trade or gift HEC to other factions, unless we mutually agree to do so. Our analyses indicate that such a deal would lead to a safer and more secure world for the both of us.

Btw, are there any techs we can trade? It's a pity we didn't know you could acquire HEC. Otherwise we would have gladly traded it with you, and wouldn't have lost an opportunity for cooperation.

Greetings,

Mani Alpha-3
Second Function of the Cybernetic Consciousness

[MrWhereItsAt]

Fair enough... I'm assuming we are protecting HEC as it give the Nerve Gas, yes?

And surely it will not be long before everyone gets it anyway - it's not too far off from the start.

Also, isn;t it a little weird we are proposing non-proliferation, yet also saying what a pity we could have given it to them in the same breath? Or is that just me?

[Maniac]

I was thinking to propose non-proliferation so that the Drones wouldn't give the tech to PEACE before we can crush them.

Also, isn;t it a little weird we are proposing non-proliferation, yet also saying what a pity we could have given it to them in the same breath? Or is that just me?

You have a point.

[MrWhereItsAt]

A good reason yourself - if we can smash anyone before they get Gas, all the better. I asssume there's no UN sanctions type thing against them in a PBEM? The onyl sanctions are those the human decides on?

[Googlie]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
I asssume there's no UN sanctions type thing against them in a PBEM? The only sanctions are those the human decides on?

Correct. Both AI factions will, however, impose sanctions.

G.

[Maniac]

I received the following two PMs from buster:

Hi -

Had you told us you had it - we would have informed you. It was somewhat surprising (and an annoying waste) to see it already in your hands.

I need to consult with the group but I believe we can agree to a non-proliferation treaty.

You will get final confirmation in a day or so.

As far as trading goes we dont have any new techs beyond this one. IIRC the tradeable ones were the ones already offered (eth calc & some earlier ones). I will give you an exact list when I get back to you.

regards
buster

I have now cleared it with the team.

We will agree to the non-proliferation deal on HEC. That is we won't trade the tech to any other faction until such a time as a third faction discovers it by own research.

This includes the Hive who we have so far had an extensive trade relationship with also.

We expect that you will likewise not trade the tech to Peace, Uni, Hive or any of the AIs. The deal runs until as mentioned one of the others gets it by own research.

Even a deal such as blabla will get it next turn so therefore we want to trade now should get cleared first. We won't engage in even such a deal without your consent.

Hope thius is agreeable.

regards
buster

So what do you think of it? I'm completely in favour, as it will likely prevent PEACE from getting HEC before we have weakened them sufficiently.

[Impaler[WrG]]

The Gas is not what worries us though, its the Plasma Steel armor that will nuter our attack force. We need to determine the relationship between Drones and PEACE more acuratly. I also hope we have not revealed too much by sounding "nervous" about a potentialy defencive tecnology. Hopefully the Drones will be to dense to realize this.

[Maniac]

The Gas is not what worries us though, its the Plasma Steel armor that will nuter our attack force.

I agree.

We need to determine the relationship between Drones and PEACE more acuratly.

Any idea how?

I also hope we have not revealed too much by sounding "nervous" about a potentialy defencive tecnology. Hopefully the Drones will be to dense to realize this.

That's indeed a risk. Though since Drogue already told Jamski, and since the Hive ignores all our calls lately, who knows they have spilled the beans to everyone already.

Edit:

How about this answer:

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Hi buster,

Had you told us you had it - we would have informed you. It was somewhat surprising (and an annoying waste) to see it already in your hands.

Sorry to hear that. I was not aware of that. I believe the first contacts between our two factions happened around the time of our PEACE Pact severance, a very busy time in our forum and also in my RL. I had no time to read all posts or discussions and as a consequence I'm not really aware of the details of the foreign affairs course of Drogue at that time. Thus please forgive me if I make stupid comments or ask things Drogue already asked, for example regarding tech trading.

As far as trading goes we dont have any new techs beyond this one. IIRC the tradeable ones were the ones already offered (eth calc & some earlier ones). I will give you an exact list when I get back to you.

Thanks. I guess you're aware of the techs we have to offer. There are a bunch of lower level techs we can offer you too, but if I recall correctly from way back you couldn't trade those because you had some sort of deal with the Hive. Correct?

Btw, something else we have available for trade since recently is the PUT commlink frequency. Interested?

In response to your treaty proposal, I can say the Consciousness agrees completely! Let it be said, let it be done!
Btw, do you also agree to tell each other if one of us discovers that another faction has researched or acquired HEC?

This includes the Hive who we have so far had an extensive trade relationship with also.

Talking about the Hive, have you heard of them recently? Since Jamksi's coup attempt the commlink frrequencies have been dead silent.

Greetings,

Mani Alpha-3
Second Function of the Cybernetic Consciousness

[MrWhereItsAt]

All in favour of both the embargo and the new message.

[Maniac]

Sent.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Ok anything else we want to talk to the Drones about, we could sell them Unit Com by the way. That lets them call the Council but they would probly be defering to the hive as we are on that.

[Maniac]

Greetings most honoured Fullhumans-Foremen,

We have recently spotted the drone scout patrol again on our continent of Trantoria/Cydonya. The lands that unit is scouting are scheduled for expansion in the near future. We were therefore wondering, would you be willing to recognize the continent you are currently exploring as CyCon territory?
If so, would you want us to to recognize a continent of similar size as yours too?

Friendly greetings,

Mani Alpha-3

How about this PM to buster, Mongoose and jtsiyodaorsomething as our way of saying "Get of my land, you son of a *!!!"?

[Maniac]

Message above sent. Got back the following reply from jstisyoda:

Your message was posted in the Drone Forum.

BTW, regarding your previous message, as far as I know, we Drones have not expressed interest in letting you know when a faction is about to get HEC (and vice versa).

This could mean they would be able to sell HEC to all other factions right on the turn a third faction researches it, without us being able to make a counteroffer. I was hoping we could strike a deal with the drones where, once a third faction discovers it, we agree on a price and sell HEC to all other factions, and split the profits in half. That way we two wouldn't have to compete against each other to sell it, having to decrease the price.

[Drogue]

Maniac: It also means we can try to find when someone has it and after that, trade with everyone, before the Drones get a chance too. If we pact the Hive though, and they get Governorship, then we will know when another faction gets it.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Do the Drones have any tecs we will be needing? The likly have Gene Splicing by now and with their low reserch rate would probly be in need of several tecs from us.