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  • How about sending something like this to buster? IMO we have nothing to lose anymore, so it's worth the try.


    Hello buster,

    It is becoming more and more obvious that the CPU has no chance at all anymore to win this game. Therefore I recently started a thread in the CyCon private forum to ask what should be our goals for the remainder of this ACDG. This came out of it:

    1> Survive as long as possible.
    Just for the heck of it.
    2> Focus more on roleplay.
    That way the game could at least remain somewhat fun for us - being slaughtered for the next few months won't be.
    3> Hurt the Hive as much as we can.
    We haven't been able to cooperate with you as much as we would have liked to, but at least you haven't been lying to us from the moment we met. The Hive has. And as you may have noticed in the ACDG general forum, they're now busy inventing fictitious reasons to attack us in the near future. Therefore, though we realize we ourselves can't win anymore, we'd still like to try and deny the Hive victory in this game. As a consequence I was wondering if you wouldn't be interested in a solo victory? Surely that must be more appealing than a two-way-draw with the Hive? It could be done by us uniting behind you as Supreme Leader, or some other way - I'm certain something can be found if you're interested. We'd both gain by this. You win the game with a solo victory, and we still get satisfaction from repaying the Hive for the crimes they did to us.

    I hope to hear from you soon about this,

    Someone (perhaps better not me - who knows he's pissed off at me because he gave me some info while he thought I was a pirate)
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    • I think, before something like this is posted, that a poll must be done if our members do agree to a drone victory. This is a real give-away. Btw, drones have started the CF SP.
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      • I agree with Geo. Poll it first. We have 3 options:

        Don't send.
        Send but double cross them.
        Send and unite behind them, ending the game.

        IMHO it seems like a plan. Or Pact them and offer them it. Ie, if they'll pact well vote yet to supreme leader.
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        • Yes, we need a poll.
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          • Before any of this, notice that buster recently posted tacit approval for the Hive's request we enter into negotiations. It seems clear thet they are against us in this too. I think we should send them a PM asking them (in non-gameplay terms) what they REALLY think of all this before proposing anything.
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            Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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            • Mm, it was a Drone who posted, but not Buster. You guys keep telling that Buster plays the Drones as PBEM, not as at team. So how much value do we have to give on the posting of this Drone message?
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              • We should not say that we feel we are unable to win the game, that would project weakness and encourage them to take the offensive against us.

                I like the idea of privatly asking them what they realy think of this situation.
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                • In light of this message, my previous postings in the other diplomaty threads are moot now.

                  Originally posted by buster
                  A fast working comission secretly appointed to avoid destruction of evidence by the office of the Governer to investigate whether the Cycon/Uni fusion are in compliance with planetary trust regulation has found that said fusion does not confirm with said regulation in that it will produce a "planetary egghead monopoly" and recommended that the fusion be broken up.

                  The planetary security council has consequently expelled the CPU and unanimously voted in favour of "Resolution 1" entitled "CPU asset redistribution"

                  A coalition taskforce jointly headed by a Hive and Drone general has been sent off to implement resolution 1.

                  Governor buster is reported to have stated:
                  "We are confident this will all be over well before Christmas".

                  2160 to Hive
                  PUT will be under attack, I suppose. Whether it is a joint attack on PUT by Hive and Drones remains to be seen. It could be that Hive pushes to Atlantis, while Drones push at PUT.
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                  • We should ask Buster whats up, likly he wont realy respond much as has been his habit (a disapointing one as this Game is suposed to be about interactin with people). Our best bet is to get the Hive to declare some kind of nutrality in regards to this likly Drone attack. We might be able to hold off the Drones if we have a 1 front war, a 2 fronter = CPU deleted.
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                    • Hive/Drones can make the same calculations, Impaler. And Busters message indicates a joint attack. I don't think that Hive units will accompany Drone units their around PUT, but they sure as hell can press a front on the former PEACE territory.
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                      • We could Raze some of the most western PEACE bases if it looks like they might fall (of keep them at 1 pop so Hive razes it for us), that would force them to make and send out Pods before they could extend their Air Cover to more interior bases. Outside of Air cover our Navy would have the advantage and we could thus stall them that much longer.
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                        • Yes, I considered this tactic. For Atlantis it is no problem, growth takes place in what, 17 turns or so.

                          The main problem is still Crossbone Way. If Hive can place air units there...

                          But I suggest to stop putting money in hurrying RC's there. No use if Hive comes over for tea.
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                          • hmz...we will have to wait until we get the turn to see what the HIVE does...if they join in the attack i would like to suggest to destroy PEACE and destroy some bases close to the hive...and ask for a extension of our play turn
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                            • Jamski says that the Drones have comanded the Hive to attack us but they are considering disobeying, we will see when we get the turn. I have asked Jamski to tell us about the nature of the Drones military and ware they are vulnorable to Probes.
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                              • Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
                                ...and ask for a extension of our play turn
                                Why?

                                Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
                                Jamski says that the Drones have comanded the Hive to attack us but they are considering disobeying, we will see when we get the turn. I have asked Jamski to tell us about the nature of the Drones military and ware they are vulnorable to Probes.
                                By PM I hope. I didn't realise he was an informant in some cases.

                                Also, he leaked about 4-5 bases taken. This means probably the whole north of Alecrast.

                                It's time to think of last PUT base defending, I think. Quick build an Aerospace Complex on Caboolture.
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