HIVE diplomatic exchanges

[Impaler[WrG]]

Humm lets say I can Tolerate that deal, but I still think it benifits the Hive a lot.

Lets ask Uni for a counter offer, or perhaps get Evn Econ for Adaptive Econ for full restricion lifting. With our low level of Crawlers Eco Eng is only moderatly valuable (we should begin to make more crawlers ofcorse). Our upcoming switch to FM will make engery restricion lifting most important.

Remember that Hive must agree to non-proliferation and we cant trade it to them for a few more turns just to make shure they cant steal the project.

If they were given Env Econ by the Drones then we should counter offer Adaptive Econ <> Env Econ as thats a fairier trade in my opinion because we are alowing them to skip Pro Pych thus that the equivilent of 2 tecs we are giving them vs 1 for us.

[Drogue]

Maniac: Have sent a PM. I'm not sure, sicne if we take out PEACE, they need to research a lot to get it. It would annoy them intensely, but they would lose out. However we need restriction lifting techs, and we need boreholes (and more formers!)

Impaler: They won't agree to that. Without the PEG, it's a lot less valuble. However they will get Env Econ from the Drones.

[GeoModder]

Is this tech exchange before or after we finish the PEG?

If they agree not to build it before we're finished, there is not such a need to force build it. It saves some crawlers and/or energy

[Drogue]

It's without PEG, although I'd go for quick build still. Unless we want to slow build it and go for the CBA, before the Hive get it?

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Drogue
It's without PEG, although I'd go for quick build still. Unless we want to slow build it and go for the CBA, before the Hive get it?

No, the PEG we need most now, CBA comes later. But I didn't want to imply just build it long and slowly, only not to build it in one turn then. But I guess it's still the best to build it directly in case the Hive is about to break diplomacy just like that.

[Impaler[WrG]]

ok then lets send the unaccepted offer of Adaptive Econ, they will counter offer and we accept in the same year we get the project so they cant steal.

[Drogue]

Not yet, PUT have said they will trade Eco Eng and Env Econ, meaning no need to trade with the Hive. Or we can get something else for it

[Maniac]

I send this:

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Hi Chairman Voltaire and Ambassadors HongHu and Jamski,

(I don't know anymore who is supposed to be the official contact person, so I'll just send it to all three of you )

I've just heard the recent news that Enigma_Nova has been expelled from the Hive. Can I ask why or is it a purely internal matter?
Also, recently Enigma_Nova offered to buy Adaptive Economics from us with as clause that we could keep the Planetary Energy Grid. I am wondering, is his proposal still supported by the current Hive leadership? Due to a beeline of our own that could be interrupted, we can't trade yet this year, but from next year on it should be possible to trade for AdapEcon.

Friendly greetings,

Maniac

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Jamski's reply already in:

Part of the trouble leading to his expulsion is him offering you this deal, without informing anyone till afterwards. We actually haven't discussed it yet. Please can you hold for an official response.

[GeoModder]

Well, sounds as the majority in the Hive didn't know anything anymore. Or that only now the Hive members are taking a real look at the game. Might mean trouble in the future.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Hive has gone All stockpiling Energy and returned their bases to Mass Librarians.

This is all quite odd, atfirst the theory on the tec pause was that the Drones were going to give them EvnEcon but this did not happen and they will now reserch it for themselves next turn (unless perhaps the Drones send it preaccepted this turn).

The reason for their huge Credit Production is still a mystery as they dont seem to be in a position to get the PEG anymore.

That inteligence department would be helpfull for figuring these things out, the Hive is a mystery in a Puzzle wrapped in Enigma_Nova's Ego!

[Maniac]

Greetings Ambassadors Jamski and HongHu,

I have a question for the Hive. If former PEACE members asked to join the Hive after their faction is destroyed, would you accept them in your faction?

I hope to hear from you soon!

Mani Alpha-3
External Affairs Function of the Cybernetic Consciousness

From Jamski:

We would discuss it on a person by person basis. What did you have in mind? BTW, it would be nice if you left the PEACE 1 base.

-Jam

Why would he want us to leave PEACE one base? So PEACE can give them AdapEcon?

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Maniac
From Jamski:

Why would he want us to leave PEACE one base? So PEACE can give them AdapEcon?

I think negotitations aren't going fast between them...
They're trying to stall things.

It also sounds as the PEACE members are not interested at all for joining us.

My recommendation: keep up the pressure on PEACE, perhaps splitting the task groups (Impaler's idea) isn't so bad after all. It will take perhaps more turns to take individual bases, but troops will be in position for final strike sooner.

[Maniac]

Btw, something else: I just noticed Kody back on the Hive member list. And he has posted in the private forum, so I noticed on the general forum list.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Maniac
Btw, something else: I just noticed Kody back on the Hive member list. And he has posted in the private forum, so I noticed on the general forum list.

And is that good or bad news?

I suppose he couldn't (re)join another faction.
Or perhaps with Enigma gone, he was willing to come back?

[laurentius]

The End Game is coming...