PEACE-CyCon War Preparations thread

[Impaler[WrG]]

I have opened the 2149 turn and had a look at Alexandria's Defences as we were planing to do. They are basicaly what we expected. A very green scout patrol (amphibius) and a very green Foil Transport which was propaply down in their to alow them to move formers from the base onto the surrounding islands.


Nothing I saw indicates we need to change our orders in any way. Our forces will be set up for an excelent attack on Alexandria next turn. The Transport will be 4 moves from Alexandria and our Cruisers Alpha Pi and Love Boat in the Fungus 3 moves from Alexandria.

I propose we first move the Cruiser adjacent to Alexandria and attack any Probe Foils we see with Love Boat. Then we move the transport adjacent and attack the scout and transport with the Rover (advantage should be ~3.5 vs ~1.1 so we can crush them both easily (even our Cruisers suffering the 100% defence penalty wold have a 2-1 advantage). Then we send in 1 probe team for infiltration.

Once we have infiltration we should stop and carfully examine every scrap of data we have before making our next move.

If all is good then any avalible cruiser then captures the base and we take a tec. As the base has Rec Commons we should need little of no police to prevent riots (beware we could trigger B-Drones in our other bases). Set production to scout patrol (might as well include amphbius as its the same cost). Now we move the transport to Casablanca and the Marines attack it, again huge advantage means we take little or no damage. Second Cruiser then moves in and takes Casablanca (is that possible if its a land base?).

Next turn the Transport can move to Tripoli by backtraking east and hooking around to come from the North. The Rover and Marines attack possibly with the help of the Cruisers too and they take Tripoli. The following turn Margarita can be attacked by our 2 new Cruisers Beta Pi and Node Runner. Our Marines or Rover can then do the capture to restore health (their getting run down by now). From their its smooth sailing to Sea lurk and Liar's Lair and Pampalona and the rest is just moping up.

[DeathByTheSword]

Now we move the transport to Casablanca and the Marines attack it, again huge advantage means we take little or no damage. Second Cruiser then moves in and takes Casablanca (is that possible if its a land base?).

cruiser cant capture land bases

[Impaler[WrG]]

Darn it, ok you military experts come up with the plan then as I am realy unfamiliar with the mechanics involved and will likly get us in trouble.

[DeathByTheSword]

might i suggest still building military units to send into the colonies...you never know when we might hit a hard spot...

[DeathByTheSword]

well i dont know if there is room in the transports but a simple garrison unit can take in a base that has no defenders....so attack with the marines to take out the defences and drop a garrison in there for defence and capture...but the transport might be full i dont know ... havent been around that long

[Googlie]

ALERT

Dut to an unfamiliatrity with the rules, a new PEACE member was "playing with the save" and sent a probeship south that encountered your Marine Expeditionary Force. Their official turn probeship did not take that course, so "officially" they don't know that you are on your way (but "unofficially", of course, they do)

They don't know where you are heading (them or an AI faction) and as I picked that info up too late to do anything (like forcing their official move to ensure a meeting - Buster had already played his turn) I have simply reminded the PEACE newcomers of the rules and said that I would advise you that your force has been "illegally" sighted

G.

[Maniac]

Thanks for informing us. I guess this might explain the emoticon of Makahlua and her unusually quick turn play.
Would I be allowed to ask, compared to the trend of their previous turns, have they - after learning of our force - suddenly changed their build orders or their unit positions, which could indicate they expect a military conflict?
If they have, IMHO most honest would be that we at least get to know the current position of the party boat that normally should have moved southeast to meet our force.
Anyway, I guess the different probe foil move won't be that bad if they moved south in an attempt to infiltrate Binary Bastion. Then we can still intercept it with eg our laser cruiser (and hope they don't have a ship floating around the "official" party boat location to counterattack our cruiser, which they possibly couldn't have if the party boat moved southeast. ). In this case we wouldn't be able anymore to use the probe-destroying ship in an attack on Tripoli though.
However if they moved their probe foil somewhere west or north after learning of our move in an attempt to protect it against destruction, this event is rather annoying, as we accelerated the start of the war exactly to prevent PEACE probe foils from infiltrating us and stealing tech, and now they'll have a Party Boat we don't know the location of, and which we should have been able to destroy very easily if it moved southeast.

They don't know where you are heading (them or an AI faction)

IIRC the front of the cruiser transport was pointing west, so I guess it's pretty obvious what direction we're heading.

[Impaler[WrG]]

I feard PEACE might do something like this. Its relativly easy for anyone to open up the files and to abused them rampatly, test pods, explore in every direction with your units ect ect and then simply pass the information along to the turn player who only needs to load the turn once and thus dosen't get any "blood" on his hands.

Please watch for any additon action of this type. If Peace plans the movment of its military units before they recive their turns and post these plans then it will be relitivly easy to notice a sudden deviation to attack or defend an objective they shouldn't know about.

Fortunatly our ships are much faster so the chance of them being able to pull something off is very slim.

We will compare the infiltration data we will be obtaining on 2150 with the information the Hive sent us of last turn and looking for any signs of an obvius response to our forces. If we feel their are discrepances we will alert you.

Do not fear my Cycon brothers, we shall be victorious non the less, the Hives data reveals a stageringly low energy reserve of 43 credits and an income of 19. Their ability to rush defences is miniscure and their Probes are impotent without funds. Our declaraion of war will be ready shortly and then we have mearly to exicute our plans and all will be ours

[MrWhereItsAt]

Ah reloading and unofficial moves.... It was bound to surface sooner or later in this game, as it has in others.

How did you find this out, Impaler? Should we take it the moderators and get them to outlaw such a thing?

[Impaler[WrG]]

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[Maniac]

To finalize things, is it ok if I do the following to attack Alexandria?:

1> Attack the scout patrol with the amphib rover. I presume it will take some damage.
2> Attack the transport with the Impact Squad. It overclasses the transport severely, so it should hardly take any damage.
3> Take the base with the rover, hopefully having still more than 50% HP. This way both our land units will be in near-perfect health to attack Tripoli MY 2151.
4> Use the ships to track down that cursed Party Boat.

[Drogue]

Maniac: Sounds good. Use those as EAF orders. IMHO after that, it would be fair for Googlie to tell us the location of their probe foil, since it knows our location illegally and will now try to avoid it. I understand that they have not intentionally done anything wrong, so I do not ask for punitive damages, but they have gained from their actions, and we have lost. IMHO this would mean that their net gain over us is minimal.

If we do find out where it is, send 1 ship to destroy it and patrol, and put the other one in position to attack Tripoli in 2151.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Updating with discusiion on MIRC with Manic and Drouge.

Move transport to Alexandria by moving 2 spaces west before moving north, its the same number of moves (4) but could reveal the Probe Foil at no real cost to us.

A unit adjacent to Casablanca from the North East (56,74) should be able to reach Tripoli and Attack it acording to our maps. So attacking Casablanca would be a viable option for our Impact Cruiser if it has nothing else important to do.

Alexandria must be captured first though which the Cruiser could do if our Infantry units do not perform the cap, which depends on how much damage they take in the attack, the Rover could probably get some upgrades which would be very helpfull vs the tougher (sensor array) defences of Tripoli.

In any event we want to be methodical and calculating with all our military moves like good cyborgs aught to be.

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Drogue
it would be fair for Googlie to tell us the location of their probe foil, since it knows our location illegally

I agree. It is at 61:79

Originally posted by Maniac
Would I be allowed to ask, compared to the trend of their previous turns, have they - after learning of our force - suddenly changed their build orders or their unit positions, which could indicate they expect a military conflict?

There has been no change to their build orders or unit positions between the two turns (other than preparing to shuffle crawlers around on transports)

G.

[Nubclear]

For some reason, I highly doubt PEACE "accidently" did this