Ceasefire!

[FlameFlash]

Sounds like we're on the same page, foolish.

[Trithemius]

Ideas on the proposed message to the Human Hive

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Proposed message to the Hive via Arnelos:
Dear Friends in the Hive:

Shall we appeal to their own propaganda and say:
"To our comrades in the Hive,"?

It has come to our attention that PEACE has been viewed as a satelite faction of the Hive.

While logical, this has also jepordized PEACE's ability to effectively conduct the ceasefire negotiations as CPU feels we are simply subserviant to the Hive.

What about:
"It has come to our attention of the Parliament of the Sea (I like this name; so sue me) that PEACE has come to viewed as a satellite-faction of the Human Hive.

While this error, given our factions' close cooperation, is easily made we must also stress that it has jeopardised PEACE's ability to conduct effective cease-fire negotiations with the CPU due to that fact that the CPU considers PEACE to be totally subservient to the Human Hive."

We have greatly appreciated all the support the Hive has granted us, but must stress that while we really wish to maintain our pact, we must remain neutral in the conflict, if it comes, and request kindly to not be a launch point against CPU otherwise.

"Both the Hive and PEACE have benefitted from the strong positive relationship that exists between our factions, we must seek to emphasize their seperate natures to the CPU. In order to achieve this, we must ask that the Human Hive does not make use of PEACE bases in any attack against the CPU. The perception of PEACE neutrality must be fostered at this time."

This is simply to protect ourselves from further misunderstandings that PEACE are direct partners of the Hive.

"PEACE continues to value its pact with the Human Hive and wishes to continue it into the forseeable future, but PEACE itself must also continue to exist for the pact to remain. PEACE's priority then is the continued survival of PEACE. PEACE trusts that their comrades in the Hive can understand this."

Thank you, and we wish you luck in whatever you finally choose to do.

Another appeal to their own gibberish:
"PEACE continues to have the highest regard for the Human Hive and for the bold social policies undetaken by its valiant comrade-citizens."

Opinions? Flames?

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by foolish_icarus I agree in principle, except that we have no techs nor naval expertise.

I thought that Pirate ships had some kind of "built-in" good-stuff. In all honesty its been a hell of a long time since I played them. (I normally tend to be a Human Hive / Peacekeepers / Cybernetic Consciousness sort of guy).

They deserve oh-so-more than a painful stiffing. But they are violent and erratic and will respond without warning with force if provoked in the slighest (or even nonexistent) way. "Justice" plays no part in their decisions. Perhaps more importantly, we need to discourage the cycon's idea that things can be "paid for" and "smoothed over". Without being provocative to them, we need to circulate the subconscious inclination to avoid force as a solution. They've gotten away with it this far, we should not encourage them.

I think that our exploitation of their misapprehension that they can pay for their sins is a good policy. It is fitting to me that the CPU help us rebuild so we can punish them later. Besides, as I understand it, we need all the energy we can get.

Go for it.*

I've gone for it. I'll be updating my signature to reflect my new task and my right to a xenorum ration immediately.

*Bear in mind that I have no authority whatsoever and this is not an offical endorsement or authorization of any sort. But we're pretty informal, you could probably get away with just doing it.

Too late!

[foolish_icarus]

Sounds like we're on the same page, foolish.

Well good. Real democracy, not the farce in the other factions.


Trithemius, to your revision. With a little bit of FF's smooth style, I suspect it would go down pretty well.

I thought that Pirate ships had some kind of "built-in" good-stuff. In all honesty its been a hell of a long time since I played them.

Useless for the time being. We have no navy, will be left behing in the tech race immediately if the Hive stops gifting, and the Cycon have the Maritime control center. This is not to say we lack the ability, built in marines balances things out somewhat, but we need the ships on which to put the marines.

I think that our exploitation of their misapprehension that they can pay for their sins is a good policy. It is fitting to me that the CPU help us rebuild so we can punish them later. Besides, as I understand it, we need all the energy we can get.

agree 100%

I've gone for it. I'll be updating my signature to reflect my new task and my right to a xenorum ration immediately.

Arrrrrrrrrr!

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by foolish_icarus
Trithemius, to your revision. With a little bit of FF's smooth style, I suspect it would go down pretty well.

I was trying to stop it getting to static, but prolonged experiences with the UN have started to leave their indelible mark on my diplomatic style. I get a little more interesting when I am roleplaying cantankerous magicians in a pseudo-medieval setting.

Useless for the time being. We have no navy, will be left behing in the tech race immediately if the Hive stops gifting, and the Cycon have the Maritime control center. This is not to say we lack the ability, built in marines balances things out somewhat, but we need the ships on which to put the marines.

Aha. Can the Pirates also build bases where other people can't? Or has tech caught up already?

Did the Consciousness build the Maritime Control Centre or did they steal it from us?

agree 100%

I'll see if we can get anything out of the Free Drones then. I expect other people are already siphoning the Hive and Consciousness.

Arrrrrrrrrr!

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[Trithemius]

Oh yeah...what do people think about the "Parliament of the Sea"?

[foolish_icarus]

They built MCC. Pirates can build terrain enhancements in trenches with some appropriate tech, but there aren't many of those on this map so the niche is small

[FlameFlash]

Here's a merger between the two:

Dear Friends in the Hive:
It has come to our attention that PEACE has been viewed as a satelite faction of the Hive.

While logical, given our two factions close cooperation and friendship, we must also stress that it has jepordized PEACE's ability to effectively conduct ceasefire negotiations with the CPU.

Both of our great factions have benefitted from the strong positive relationship that has existed through our conflict with CPU, though we must, for the sake of survival, emphazie our seperate natures to the CPU. In order to achieve this, we must ask that the Human Hive does not make use of the PEACE base, and any future PEACE bases, in any attack against the CPU at this time. The perception of PEACE neutrality must be stictly enforced at this time.

PEACE continues to value the pact we share with the Human Hive and hope that it will continue into the forseeable future, but PEACE itself must also continue to exist for the pact to remain. PEACE's priority, then, is the continued survival of PEACE, and we trust that our comrades in the Hive can understand this.

Our best wishes in whatever direction you choose (peace or war with CPU) but at this juncture all we can do is silently watch from a distance.

FF of the PEACE Parliament of the Sea

Loved the use of their own words, but I think we also need to hold on to our own identity.

Most certainly like the Parliament of the Sea though.

[Trithemius]

Here's a merger between the two:



Loved the use of their own words, but I think we also need to hold on to our own identity.

Fair enough, I'm happy to fling copy at you and have you edit or discard it however you like.

Most certainly like the Parliament of the Sea though.

Excellent

[FlameFlash]

Is this message moot now?

Just considering with the war against CPU with the Hive, it looks like it might come a little late...

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Is this message moot now?

Just considering with the war against CPU with the Hive, it looks like it might come a little late...

It might be, we should probably send something friendly sounding to the Hive though.

Maybe we should even ask for mercy for the CPU? That could be interesting...

[FlameFlash]

Or mercy from the CPU...

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Or mercy from the CPU...

That's assumed I think.

Update: CPU (via Impaler) repeats their demands for us to break our pact with the Hive on nothing but their say-so. I told Impaler that it was CPU's turn to trust us since there was no way that I could persuade the rest of you that PEACE would just do it at the drop of a hat.

We need to work out if the Hive is going to send anything into our base. If they do then CPU will attack (although they might not win with Hive reinforcements); however if the Hive does not move units into it then CPU might attack anyway.

It's a bit tricky.

P.S. Please, noone tell the CPU -anything- that we know about the Hive forces. We can't trust the CPU yet and it might be enough to make the Hive jump on us.

[FlameFlash]

Agreed, Trith, especially on the CPU needing to prove themselves rather than the Hive needing to prove themselves.

It's a tight spot, that's for sure.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Agreed, Trith, especially on the CPU needing to prove themselves rather than the Hive needing to prove themselves.
It's a tight spot, that's for sure.

Hopefully we can wriggle out of it. I am a little worried that the CPU has decided to jump on us anyway and that all the diplomacy in the world won't do us a lick of good...

Maybe I will 'think positive' instead.