Ceasefire!

[FlameFlash]

I'm afriad that's the case, as the only way we got the ceasefire was due to the Hive and Drones wrenching their arms back in the first place. (Otherwise, the were wanting us to be assimilated into their CPU).

[FlameFlash]

This recieved from CPU:

CPU regrets to inform the PEACE faction that...
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a heavy battle between a PUT war ogre and Hive drop forces resulted in the obliteration of Kelvin Grove.
Sanctions are in place.

No worry people, PEACE is still ingame. The ceasefire is in place and working

[FlameFlash]

My response:
*Nervous chuckle.* Our many thanks in being recognized as not a part of the Hive but as a friend of world peace.

[FlameFlash]

Drone response and plans, since it has to do with the war, I'm putting it here.

jtsisyoda wrote on 24.03.04 19:28:37:
Trithemius,

Our goal right now is to eliminate Uni. (Or the northern CPU continent, if you prefer.) Then we hope to continue into CyCon territory, although we'll have to see how they respond to our invasion of Uni.

We also plan to send some units your way for protection in a few (2-3) turns, if you can hold out.

From buster:

As a tip - in case they are facing plane attacks rather than ground units - emptying the base (moving out the units) may prevent CPu from destroying the base by hitting the units inside.

I've asked The Hive whether they were able to prevent Uni from getting MMI next turn. If Uni passes MMI to CyCon, they could drop units into empty bases, in which case buster's advice is not applicable. When I hear something from The Hive, I'll let you know.

-Yoda

[FlameFlash]

My recommendation:

Wow...

I'm recommending mentioning to them that CPU is currently upholding the ceasefire between PEACE and CPU. If possible, they should deploy some protection troops nearby (such as on the land NW of yardarm), but until CPU actually looks like they're going to break the ceasefire we'd rather appear neutral.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
My recommendation:

Wow...

I'm recommending mentioning to them that CPU is currently upholding the ceasefire between PEACE and CPU. If possible, they should deploy some protection troops nearby (such as on the land NW of yardarm), but until CPU actually looks like they're going to break the ceasefire we'd rather appear neutral.

If the Drones can land forces on the islands earmarked for PEACE expansion then that would be good. It is certainly not in our advantage to have belligerents too close to us.

BTW what is our relationship with the Free Drones? Pact? Treaty?

[FlameFlash]

Pretty sure it's treaty.

And I agree, Trith, that would be best.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Pretty sure it's treaty.

And I agree, Trith, that would be best.

Shall I pass that on to the Free Drones in my own words (bwa ha ha!) or should we "workshop" a response in here?

Do we need more feedback from the mob, uh I mean Parliament of the Sea before we reply?

[what are the tags for strike-through? It seems so darn handy ]

[johndmuller]

Welcome, Cap'n Trithemius.

Hi Maties! I must confess that when I saw that message about how the Borg just had to take out our schooner (that in spite of the presumed fact that it couldn't have conquered that DJ sea base without the base going away), I needed a cooling off period lest I further reinforce the godlet tass' surmise that we hate the Borg. So I went to Acme.com and got me a couple of RoboKits(tm). It is most gratifying to watch them sputter and spark when they flail around in the drink after walking the plank, not to mention the fun things you can do with your dirks and cutlasses. If you've got the patience, you can get your University slave advisor to reprogram the little bots to do cool stuff like dirty da"ncing to the tune of one of the Spartan Barrack's famous Borg ditties (There once was a Borg from Tiberia, who boasted a wondrous ....."), not to mention other (unmentionable) fun things. My favorite trick is the bot that comes running up and presents himself to me obsequiously: "Boss, Boss!", it begs, "Please break my 'pact', please please!".

As to whether or not the Hive betrayed us to the Cycon earlier in the game, where is the evidence or admission of that? To my knowledge, the Hive would have known nothing that the Cycon didn't already know at that point in time (unless they had better DLs or other illegal infiltration) and any legit information would have been limited only to what someone could see with infiltration, which certainly doesn't include our intentions and the Borg had the Pact infiltration themselves and I'd be really surprised if they didn't infiltrate us themselves first thing after breaking the pact. So where's the betrayal there? OTOH, that is not to say that the Hive might not be playing us in their own way (and it certainly doesn't rule out the possibility that there are dissident elements in the Hive that might do otherwise unsanctioned things), I'm just wondering why it seems that the Cycon allegations were so readily 'bought into'.

[Trithemius]

Originally posted by johndmuller
Welcome, Cap'n Trithemius.

Arrr! It's good to be aboard!

*snip! - various amusing antics*

That is indeed a novel method of stress relief

As to whether or not the Hive betrayed us to the Cycon earlier in the game, where is the evidence or admission of that? To my knowledge, the Hive would have known nothing that the Cycon didn't already know at that point in time (unless they had better DLs or other illegal infiltration) and any legit information would have been limited only to what someone could see with infiltration, which certainly doesn't include our intentions and the Borg had the Pact infiltration themselves and I'd be really surprised if they didn't infiltrate us themselves first thing after breaking the pact. So where's the betrayal there? OTOH, that is not to say that the Hive might not be playing us in their own way (and it certainly doesn't rule out the possibility that there are dissident elements in the Hive that might do otherwise unsanctioned things), I'm just wondering why it seems that the Cycon allegations were so readily 'bought into'.

I don't think anyone really believed the Cybernetic Consciousness. I know that I made use of CyCon fears that the Hive (allied with the Free Drones) were out to get them (and I was even right!) in my diplomatic endeavours. My main point was that the Hive might not be playing with PEACE in mind (to be expected, really), and forgetting that could be disastrous for PEACE, especially at this stage. Maybe I just have realpolitik on the brain?

P.S. I demand knowledge of your "strike-through text" technology! Transfer the files at once!

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AWWKKK!!!
T, I'd be glad to tell you the secret, but maybe your pirate timbers would be better shivvered if you stole it from me.
(Try 'pirating' 'editing' my (or this) post.)
....the Cuspidore

I forgot that we could edit each other's posts...

FF

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Trithemius
Maybe we should even ask for mercy for the CPU? That could be interesting...

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Or mercy from the CPU...

[Kody]

[03:05] Impaler[WrG]> though it did help us avert infiltration by your Probe Ships
[03:05] Makahlua> I -thought- something wa odd about thet. heh.

To the cycon:
Hey didn't you guys tell me that Tassadar or Googile gave the coordinates of the probe ship to you because they ruled the exploration illegal. You guys were quite happily telling me everything I gave you was useless if I remember correctly.

To the Peace:
"yes the Hive gave us info on you"
Hive did give information on you. You had a non-aggression pact, while cycon had a pact of friendship. The majority took non-aggression to mean infiltration data was okay.

I had objections because I thought the cycon might tell the peace that we gave infiltration data away on them. Ironically I was told that would never happen, because it was unlikely we would choose the peace over the cycon.

[Kody]

[03:08] Trithemius|> At least in this matter, I would not associate PEACE and the Hive.
[03:08] Trithemius|> It is plainly a ploy on the Hive's part to distract you. I hate to spell it out so, but it seems abundantly clear to me.

I wasn't involved at the time, but knowing my team it most likely was a poly to distract you.

[Kody]

It seems that the cycon underestimated the Hive's hatred of the University. Once you joined up with the University I doubted there would be any negotiation.

[GeoModder]

:shrugs:

Hive/Drones would have knocked on the CyCon door after Uni was gone anyway. At least we acquired some techs that prolonged the end a bit.