Turns 2141-2160

[Hercules]

Re Time left. Yeah you may be right. I 'll go check

[Hercules]

Yeah Foolish is right we do have only an hour or so.

[Makahlua]

Have followed Cap'n Herc's suggestions (except for talking to Miriam, I'd like more input on that) And Capn', open this and hit end turn if I haven't posted it by teatime over there (should give any currently sleeping US folks a chance to comment before we whisk the turn off), please?

Icarus - Good idea, but I've got no probe assets currently though Liar's does have the faster cruiser based one in production. Not to mention a cred balance of 5 PoE Here's to hoping the rover on Yardarm can come up with more than mineral deposits and earthquakes next turn

And as much as my pirate heart would love to raze some CyCon bases, can you -imagine- what the PR machine over there would do with it? (Ansd I do mean -machine- literally ) They'd make Saddam look nice comapred to us

[foolish_icarus]

It might be worth it.

[Hercules]

Eh Cap'n Maki , you never attached the end turn

[johndmuller]

I just noticed that the Cycon have the MCC, so they have quite a range with their cruisers.

Cap'n Maki, please double check all bases for bad labor allocataion (like at HMB where we are producing 1 nut from the fungus instead of producing 1-2-2 from a river-forest) or sub-optimal allocations (like at 'Rita or Sealurk). I think that in general, we might want to maximize min production rather than growth at this point to be able to build anything. For example, at Sealurk, I would produce from (52,58) instead of (55,53), at 'Rita from (56,62), (56,66) and (60,62) with the 30% Psych, and at Pamplona from (46,60) instead of (49,57).

Planting forests on the river tiles at Calico might have been more sensible than at (58,42), but it's a bit late for me to be suggesting that as it would waste 2 or 3 more turns to change now.

Consider going to 60% Econ (the +7 seems to be our highest PofE yield). 30% psych doesn't do much, but it might be the right setting anyway. Of course, the labs are for ****, but we can always steal tech later, if there is a later.

HMB Island may turn out to be our new homeland - Perhaps we should consider building up its defenses so we can keep it - we might want to build a couple of decent defensive units, Barques and/or probes at HMB base for openers and similarly at Accident; an HQ is important, but I don't know it is is that important compared to military units at this point.

Why build a road at (37,69)???? is there something in the water on HMB that promotes useless terraforming? Is that ****** BorgAgent Former operator still working for us there? How 'bout a forest there instead?

Herc's gambit of moving the 'Rita barque to (59,69) is appealing and interesting, but risky - if they have a DL spy or are doing unseemly things like playing ahead for intel purposes (given their dubiously ethical behavior earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to play below the belt), they will know it is there. Another equally interesting and risky approach would be to move the barque to (57,65) or (59,67) and engage their warship at (56,68) in an artie duel - with luck we would kill or capture it and the love-boat both - we may need to engage in some kind of mass suicide assaults on their ships with our crappy ones to knock them off - as long as that one is wounded, we have a better chance of getting it.

[Hercules]

Some good points here Cuspidore but I think Maki posted the turn just beforehand at 18.08 or around then.

I don't think we have Adaptive Doctrine, do we, to marine capture.

[FlameFlash]

If we don't, that's a tech we need to focus on getting... fast.

[Makahlua]

It's not just one love boat, it's -three-

Not good.

(forgot to mention in e-amil Margaritaville is lost too )

[foolish_icarus]

gift the bases they are going to take to the AI

[Hercules]

That would be Sea Lurk?

See message from Enigma

[Hercules]

From Enigma

Hive-PEACE trade

The PEACE has something that The Hive is interested in.
For many reasons, Adaptive Economics is on our want list.

We may be able to get the Drones to send you some of their military techs, in a sort of a 'circular' trade.

Are you willing to share Adaptive Econ with The Hive?
If the Drones deal falls through, what else would you take for it?

I'm talking to the CyCon about this, too, but they insist on holding the deal until they can get the PEG up.
Hive is in a bit of a hurry and would need the tech sooner than it would take to build that SP.

[Hercules]

I have asked for clarification.

[Hercules]

This to Honghu

I have just received a message from Enigma re possible circular deal.
Please advise as to its legitimacy.

[Hercules]

In all honesty is there any future for PEACE? IF not why don't we just destroy our bases and leave.

I enjoy playing games with honourable players but this is not the case here.