Turns 2141-2160

[Makahlua]

Oh, (*%*($(.

When the Borg took Atlantis last turn, the CP headed to the hive also poofed We still ahve X-Bone way on Yardarm, but now what do we do?

[foolish_icarus]

Tell the hive. See if they can get forces out there.

[foolish_icarus]

Does the hive have enough military resources to take Conshelf 57? I guess move the former and the rover into Crossbone way, complete some kind of garrison, and we'll try again
We might try looking into that truce, as well.

[Hercules]

Blast, that CP missed it by one turn. It doesn't look good.


Conshelf57 may be our only chance. We can get there in 2 turns and would need the Drones/Hive to empty the 1-3-1 unit plus probe in place. However it is a size two base. So say when the Hive or Drones kill the unit the base will shrink, I think, to a size one. Then if we invade the empty base it will disappear I think.

In our Crossbone Way it will take four turns to build anything and say we decide to build another CP we still can't get to size 2 for 5 turns. then we need a further 2 turns to move sufficiently away from Xbone way to build (another turn).

The only other DJ base (Atlantic?) is 16/17 tiles away by which time it might get to size 4, but it is further from Hive main territory.

So our priority is seeking Drone/ Hive defence of XBone (transfer some missile air units) or for the mto identify and kill the Borg transports.

Meanwhile we should move towards Conshelf57 just in case my scenario is wrong.


Lastly we need the ceasefire. But I don't think the Cycon will agree to it,

[FlameFlash]

CEASEFIRE!

I offer my services as the CPU mediator in this endeavor. Of course, it unfortunately came too late for the colony pod... I recommend we get another one up there, quickly.

[FlameFlash]

Many thanks, HonHu, this will be posted immediatly.

Seeing that you are online and Makalua is not online, I'm forwarding my PM to makalua so that you may be able to post it in your forum so whoever needs to see it can see it. Thanks!

HongHu wrote on 03-05-04 10:22:
Sorry Makalua I stuffed up and posted your PM to the public forum. I'll have to look at my save tonight but the only idea I have now is for you to persist on the last base as long as you can. We can try to take a roze base for you but the CC is in between us so it may not work, especially when now they already know I'm thinking about doing that. What they don't know, and I would like to notify you right now, is that the Hive has been planning to attack Univ on 2160. If you can persist for two more turns, situation will be changed drastically.

I will let you know more when I have a chance to consult with my more experienced teamates.

I'm attaching what I had posted in the public forum for you. Sorry again. I'm resigning from turn player position. I have made more than one serious mistakes. I will try my best to urge the Hive to do whatever it can to remedy my mistakes.

PM from Makahlua:

Well for whatever reason, we no longer have that CP on the ilse near you Our lone remaining base is on what we call Yardarm, back to the east (probably closer to PUT/Drone territory) It's inland from Calico, but no far enough that we won't be seeing CyCOn shortly. Any ideas?

I'm sorry that I now realize that Mead was right and I was wrong in not to kill that probe ship. I think it destroyed Peace's colony pod. What do you think? Also CC has had a reload. Are these two incident related?

I think we can take a Roze base for them. If they are prepared to occupy it. Problem is I do not think we have a chopper in range and if we use the penetrator then it cannot land? Also do they need a transport with scout to occupy it or can they use their foil to occupy it?

Well for whatever reason, we no longer have that CP on the ilse near you Our lone remaining base is on what we call Yardarm, back to the east (probably closer to PUT/Drone territory) It's inland from Calico, but no far enough that we won't be seeing CyCOn shortly. Any ideas?

Above is everything I just got from HongHu and my response.

[FlameFlash]

Tass, I know you're watching... (will crosspost as well) just wanting to know if the reload Maniac mentioned was legal.

Especially considering the questionable death of the colony pod when their intention was infiltrating Roze, as they've stated.

The only way I can think about it would be if they heard from Jam and changed their minds. Wanting this looked into though...

[foolish_icarus]

do we have a turn?

[Makahlua]

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=22677_end2158.sav

Here's the latest - schooner and booty boat are making a run for conshelf 57 which the hive will be clearing for us (air strike I believe) and we are in position to swoop in next turn. Build at X-Bone is a Dock Patrol, since I do not think we will be able to keep those last two crawlers long.

Doh. I forgot to send the Hive's EC back

[Hercules]

Maki Ask someone in the Hive or maybe JDMuller tabout advice re the size 2 situation.

Have the Hive infiltration on the Data Angels.If not they might not realise it is a size two base. Still there is not much else we can do. The Drones have infiltration via Governship.

[FlameFlash]

With the ceasefire I think we should actually get a transport down there and grab those crawlers... get them up to conshelf if we are able to take it to help its development.

It'll also keep Maniac and CPU happy, they're really wanting xbone either disbanded or 'gifted' to them as it's stuck out there all by its lonesome.

And if you haven't yet, subscribe to the ceasefire thread!

[johndmuller]

I'm not sure that we can take Conshelf 57 without its going away (see my comments in this post, in the Ceasefire thread), but it still may be worth a try since we are already right there, unless someone knows better that we can definitely not succeed.

On a more mundane matter, we may want to switch production to a crawler (especially if our residual crawlers are not protected by some negotiations) - but in any case, I would recommend some other unit (for example, we could have a rover version of the Dock Police (2-1-2) or a (1-2-2) SynthDefensive for the same cost; either one IMhO would be better than the (2-1-1) we are building; an amphib might also come in handy if we are going to try disloging them from Calico). Of course, if we do have a ceasefire, we would probably want to build a crawler - 'cause if we switched to another CP right now, we would finish it too soon (and we will probably need the income anyway).

If we can negotiate the building of another (coastal) base prior to our evacuation, I think that would be a good idea (also discussed in my above-referenced comments in the ceasefire thread).

[Hercules]

Just saw Maki's screen capture. Not much to say.

[FlameFlash]

Which screenshot, Herc?

[Hercules]

In Maki's Thread in the main forum: Excuse me etc