Combined diplomatic thread --Direction needed

[Nubclear]

Bolshoi Sovietski Soyuz

[FlameFlash]

Tass,

Maybe I'm just oblivious, but the one time I remember Herc getting upset with Googlie it was in regards to the CyCon war ruling, etc.

I would appreciate it if you would keep retorts to a dull roar and maybe take them PM. I know Herc would have appreciated a PM prior to your posting as it should be obvious to you that he never bothered to authorize you and would feel slighted by a sudden appearance.

[Nubclear]

[FlameFlash]

Eh?

This eventuality was obvious even though you've had the position for how long and you just got authorized?

Now had your post actually been useful, such as mentioning the fact about Enigma being ousted I'd have different feelings on Herc's reaction to your first post among us, but as useless as it was, there really was no defense in simply hopping in unannounced and Herc was justified in his reaction.

[Nubclear]

Oh bah. My mood improves regardless of this and I see little point in arguing.

[johndmuller]

If I might be permitted to violate the rancor to resume the thread . . .

I think our days are pretty much numbered without any real allies, so we need to either quit or take up one of their offers.

For me there is no possibility of asking the time of day from the &*^&$#in' Cycon, let alone anything further, so I would be going for the Hive offer instead. I wonder if we could actually get a Colony pod to them, but one never knows; perhaps we are truly free of Cycon DL'ers and/or other illicit spying and would actually be able to do it secretly. If we plan to do it, we should escort it with several warships as we don't seem to be able to do anything else with them anyway.

[foolish_icarus]

can our ambassador ask the hive for a map so we know where to send our escape pod?

[Hercules]

The general feeling seems to be to accept the hive offer as set out by Octavian.
I ffel we also need to sendthem Doc Ini this turn so that they can build a protective vessel.

Foolish we already have good maps and a reasonable idea of where we are heading. But swapping maps is also a good idea.

I am disappointed that we lost L L (and our probe unit) so quickly, I believed we had a MP left. There must be questions about their ( borg) accuracy. we know they have infiltrated us but they play an questionable style of testing forward moves. Maybe also a DL.

I will contact Voltaire with our acceptance I will ask him to keep silent about it, so as not to alert teh cycon as to our sailing directions. Also I will ask for exchange of maps and Biogenetics ( re hopeful probe)

[Hercules]

Maki please confirm that you sent Doc Ini to the Hive before I contact him.

[Makahlua]

pre-accepted to the hive and game saved.

[Hercules]

I snt this to Ambassador Octavian X



Greetings Hive Comrades.

We have discussed your offer in our forums and it is the overwheming consensus that we accept the
Hive-Drone offer of protection and safe haven.

We are doing our fastest to build a sea colony pod and or a colony pod for transport to your shores/ general
terrority.

In the meantime we send you Doc:Ini pre accepted in order that you might build a faster craft(s) to
escort/protect us as we approach your waters.

There is the vague possibility that we can build a probe unit in time to probe Data Roze for non linear. But we
lack Biogenetics. If, when you examine the turn you see a probe foil under construction in Atlantis then the
possibility becomes real.

In the meantime we look forward to co-operation with you.

Btw Of the Pirates who passed an opinion, they all opted for the Hive offer.

We hope this offer is genuine.

Yours Cap'n hercules

[Hercules]

And this to Chairman Voltaire.



I have sent a longer replyto Octavian but in essence we accept your kind offer of protection and role of junior
colleague.

Do not broadcast/communicate this acceptance to the Cycon until we are safe within your territorial waters.
we have pre accepted Doc: Ini to you this turn.

We would hope to send over all our techs and maps in due course.

[Makahlua]

Most recent message from Maniac and my reply:

Hi Makahlua,

Makahlua wrote on 29-01-2004 03:09:
It's been posted to our diplomacy thread and we're rolling out the kegs and sharpening our knives for discussion.

Thank you for doing so. I hope to hear from you soon, as this is a rather urgent matter as you understand. Sorry I didn't offer this proposal earlier, but I didn't know before it was allowed.

Btw, I received a PM from foolish_icarus where he simply replied "no" to my unification proposal. Is that an official opinion, or is he one of many voices?

Also could I please ask what PEACE members are still active these days? That way I know to who I should send further correspondence about this matter.

Thank you,

Maniac

My reply:

Btw, I received a PM from foolish_icarus where he simply replied "no" to my unification proposal. Is that an official opinion, or is he one of many voices?

He's just one voice among the captains; any -official- word would come from myself, Herc or FlameFlash.

Also could I please ask what PEACE members are still active these days? That way I know to who I should send further correspondence about this matter.

Myself, Hercules, FlameFlash, foolish_icarus, johndmuller, H0bbes. and Gert have been the most active posters recently.

(end of reply)

May I take a moment to impress upon the rest of the Cap'ns that we must not give them any hint whatsover of the plan to head for Hive waters or it could deepsix it before it even gets going?

[Hercules]

I have been thinking about that probe ship under construction. If we can finish it we could sail with it to Hive waters and with borrowed nmoney from somewhere or facs traded in, with their permission mind control a Hive base.we would repay once we became established there.

But I fear it could be curtains for us soon. By the way just send the Hive, everything we have, techs and maps.

[FlameFlash]

I concur with Cap'n Herc. Worst come to worst I'll simply see all of ye in the Hive after it's said and done, as if we pirates do go down, I know I'm not going out!