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  • Orders for turnchat 2282 onwards, Saturday 18/04/03 23.00 GMT

    Officials of the April government, please post your possibly last orderset ever here. The chat will be on the Apolyton server at #smacdg.
    Last edited by Maniac; April 18, 2003, 12:29.
    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
    Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

  • #2
    Solaris

    Build Queues

    Ankh Morpork-aaafusinwhtvr/crawler/fuslab/crawler/hbrdfrst

    Shangri-La-crawler/revsdfrmr/trefarm/suppfoil/fuslab

    Metropolis-(change suppfoil to)crawler/crawler/aquaformer

    Capricorn-chldrncrche/recreation commons/research hospital

    UN Aquaxenobananna-suppfoil/chldrncrche/recomm/supfoil
    (OUCH!)

    UN Slippery Ground-chldrncrche/reccomm/supfoil/supfoil



    Worker Placements

    Ankh Morpork-at population growth, new citizen is engineer.

    Shangri-La-at growth, new worker is thinker; make sure to work energy bonus square (22,52)

    Metropolis-at growth,new worker is an Engineer

    Capricorn-no specialists; work (26,52) and (24,56) other placements seem fine.

    UN Aquaxenobananna-sit tight, think good thoughts

    UN Slippery Ground- worker from nutrient bonus tile into engineer

    Crawlers

    Ankh-Morpork-upon completion crwlr to (16,50) for energy
    Shangri-la-upon completion crwlr to (18,48) for energy

    UN AquaXenoBananna:upon completion, trawler to (28,80) for minerals

    Terraforming Requests

    lower (19,61)
    raise (27,61)
    remove fungus (12,56)(9,55)(11,53)(11,55)
    solar collector on energy bonus (17,61)
    plant forest (21,61)
    farm+mine (24,62)(12,54)
    farm+solar (16,54)
    tidal harness on energy bonus (22,52)
    mining platform on mineral bonus (24,46)(25,39)(25,18)(8,46)(12,16)(16,14)(32,14) (37,5)





    Rush/Upgrade Requests

    Ankh Morpork-no requests

    Shangri-La-no requests

    Metropolis-no requests

    Capricorn-Children's Creche, when possible

    UN Aquaxenobannana-no requests

    UN Slippery Ground-Children's Creche, when possible

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    • #3
      Jedinica Vrijstaat orders, MY 2282 onwards

      Requests to the DPO
      When we get the Nano Factory (which shouldn't take more than 2 turns with all the crawlers being made), please upgrade all non-clean JV-homed units (3 in Concordia, 1 in each of Pandemonium, Sheathed Sword, and Terminal Dogma, last I checked), to provide marginal (but important) mineral boost. Most important are the 3 in Concordia.

      Until then, please re-home the Concordian Gatling Squad (5-1-1) to Valhalla, to balance the industrial output a bit.

      Requests to the DIA

      Rush requests:
      Aero Complex in Sheathed Sword: 40ecs
      Hybrid Forest in Valhalla: 140ecs

      Orders for the Commissioner

      Build queues
      Please follow them exactly. All are changed.

      Concordia
      change from Chaos Tank to Secret Crawler (40 min crawler)
      Queue 7 Secret Crawlers

      Be prepared to change production to The Universal Translator when enough crawlers are available to insta-build it.

      Pandemonium
      change from energy satt to Supply Speeder (30 min crawler)
      Queue 7 Supply Speeders

      Sheathed Sword
      finish aerospace complex (rush with 10 mins over: 40ecs)
      Queue 7 Supply Speeders

      (note: I'm not sure I should bother with a Hybrid Forest here, since there's only one forest square in the base radius... but if we run out of need for crawlers, put a Hybrid Forest in)

      Terminal Dogma
      change from energy satt to Secret Crawler (40 min crawler)
      Queue 7 Secret Crawlers

      Valhalla
      finish Hybrid Forest (rush with 10 mins over: 140ecs)
      Queue 7 Secret Crawlers

      Supply crawlers

      Move one of Concordia's nutrient crawlers to the unworked forest square S,S,W of Valhalla (outside of base radii) and crawl minerals. (this should bring it up to 40 from the 38 that will result from my worker and unit-rehoming orders)

      All JV crawlers (except those crawling minerals, or crawling nutrients for Sheathed Sword or Valhalla) should be considered available to assist in the insta-building of secret projects. My priorities are as follows:

      The Cloning Vats (in New Apolyton... insta-build the thing! )

      The Universal Translator (in Concordia, will be available to build in 2283, please switch Concordia to this when enough crawlers are available to insta-build it and... well, insta-build it Think of it as buying 2 techs...)

      The Nano Factory (in DEM or possibly New Suez, wherever, just ship crawlers over if it will allow construction by the next turn) ... note: when this is completed, please upgrade (among other things) the units in Concordia that are still non-clean, thanks

      The Living Refinery (in DEM or possibly New Suez, ditto to The Nano Factory, but less of a priority)

      The Dream Twister (wherever)

      The Pholus Mutagen (in Aurora, most likely)

      If no such projects can be insta-built in a given turn and there are still JV-built crawlers, there are 3 general uses I have in mind:

      1. if a JV base ceases to be able to produce it's assigned crawler type in 1 turn, assign mineral crawlers as necessary to remedy the situation.

      2. *IF* it will change our tech rate (unlikely at this point, unless we drop back to 3 turns for some reason), re-home them to Concordia and have them work the energy park (which didn't crash in my latest tests, but save before trying just in case) for energy.

      3. If Concordia can't change the tech rate with the extra energy, rehome the crawlers to New Apolyton (our best cash base, correct?) and work the energy park for energy... but please be prepared to pull the formers off for insta-building.

      Crawlers assigned to 2. and 3. should be considered "available" for instabuilding Secret Projects.

      Formers

      Instead of giving former orders, I'll just give a list of what terraformation I would want in the end, as the list of detailed former orders would become too long now they can too double the work than before. Please tell me when you want the other order format after all. If you want me to make a picture with this list put into symbols on a map of Jedinica, I'll do so.

      Updated for already done terraformations.

      All sea tiles: kelp farm, tidal harness
      (14.60) NE-NE of ShSw: soil enricher
      (19.65) NE of TeDo: (nut bonus square) replace forest with farm, soil enricher and Condensor
      (21.69) SE-SE-SE of TeDo: soil enricher
      (19.69) S-SE of TeDo: soil enricher

      When these tasks are completed, have the JV formers improve Solaris... if in doubt, roads and forest (with a little mag tube here and there to make it all easily accessible) ... Lucky, feel free to make orders as if you had a great deal more formers than you actually do

      Should Solaris become completely formed (not entirely out of the question), consider the JV formers available for any (legal) work, faction-wide... I love mag tubes

      Workers

      Concordia:
      -Take the worker off the Echelon Mirror square NW of Concordia.
      -Convert all 3 specialists to Thinkers.

      Thanks.

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      • #4
        From Our Holy Emperor (who is due to return tomorrow, iirc) :

        DPO Requests
        Upgrade Xanadu and UNPD garrisons to 1-5+t-2*2 after photon is prototyped
        Force Aurora to support UN Pizza Deliverian Scout patrol stationed there
        Disband or otherwise deal with scout patrol in Zanarkand Gate
        Get that fusion chopper from UNPD supported at egregion, perhaps?
        YOU HAVE SKIPPED THESE 2 WEEKS IN A ROW
        AND MWIA HAS APPROVED THEM

        Build Queues

        UNPD
        Rush RAP (i have no idea how much. but we're rich...*TKG throws several 20 mikrocred bill around)
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Start an SP, i guess. Dream twister, or Uni Translater, perhaps. Cedayon DID poll it, right?

        ZG
        Rush RAP
        13-5-6*2 (deep)
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Machines of Peace

        DEM
        Nano Factory
        Living Refinery

        Xanadu
        Rush RAP when it gets closer to completion
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
        Machines of Peace

        Workers
        UNPD:
        -move worker to new borehole upon completion

        ZG:
        -same as UNPD
        -Move the 1-0-1 worker to a forest

        DEM:
        Turn the 2 engineers into borehole workers (don't worry about ED, i'm canceling some crawlers)

        Xanadu:
        -work new borehole upon completion

        UNMI:
        -WORK any new mine tile that may pop up
        -work the new forest tile

        Crawlers
        7,101: Move to ZG
        -support it there
        -move back and crawl mins

        8,106
        move to xanadu
        -support from there
        -move to 6,106 and crawl mins


        Move all new crawlers built to DEM or any other SP-building base
        Move all Trance Fusion Hovertank Supplys to an SP building base

        Formers
        14,96: borehole (the poll shows this one failed, but add my vote and it's tied, and I get to break the tie! )
        13,99: borehole
        6,106: Mine
        3,111: borehole
        2,100: remove fungus
        -Forest
        4,96: sensor array
        5,93: sensor array (road?)

        ALSO, BUILD A BUNCH OF MINES AROUND UNMI, PLEASE

        DPO Requests
        Upgrade Xanadu and UNPD garrisons to 1-5+t-2*2 after photon is prototyped
        Force Aurora to support UN Pizza Deliverian Scout patrol stationed there
        Disband or otherwise deal with scout patrol in Zanarkand Gate
        Get that fusion chopper from UNPD supported at egregion, perhaps?
        YOU HAVE SKIPPED THESE 2 SESSIONS IN A ROW


        there, now did i miss anything?
        My comments as DIA: I did indeed poll the Uni Translator and the Dream Twister, and although the polls are not closed it's pretty clear. I've already volunteered Concordia for the Translator, so if TKG doesn't mind (I'll ask in PM) let's have UNPD build the Twister.

        Re: the borehole orders... TKG is correct that his vote brings the green borehole from 3-4 against to a 4-4 tie... if he gets to break the tie, the result is clear, and if I get to break the tie I defer to his judgement

        Also, just a suggestion for those upgrade requests: wait until we've built the Nano Factory, then go nuts

        Comment


        • #5
          Two comments about my (JV) orders that I'd like to be more visible than they are buried amongst build queues and such...

          1) JV, with the exception of finishing (via rushes) the Aero Complex in Sheathed Sword and the Hybrid Forest in Valhalla, is building nothing but crawlers this whole upcoming turnchat. The main purpose is to insta-build the upcoming Secret Projects, but I gave alternative uses as well if such insta-building is either completed or not possible at any given time.

          2) JV is almost completely formed, so when the last of my former orders are completed (and please do complete them, GT, they won't take long) I'm essentially turning control of them over to the faction as a whole. I'm sending them to Solaris first, since it could definately use some forest and such. Lucky, this would be your cue to decide and post which Solarian squares you want something other than forest on

          After Solaris is completely formed (not out of the question if this turnchat goes 7 turns), send them wherever... perhaps to Twin Sea to build massive amounts of boreholes

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Cedayon
            Lucky, feel free to make orders as if you had a great deal more formers than you actually do
            You'll note I did so.

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            • #7
              Just making sure

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              • #8
                All right, still need orders from MWIA, WoA, Voltaire, Archaic (although I can deal with that), and whoever is doing the orders for Akiria.

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                • #9
                  Orders are on the way. I will not be in the chat, but will have orders ready within a few hours.
                  Consul.

                  Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                  • #10
                    Completing my stay as sock puppet for GT, I give him total control over my region for this turnchat. If I recall correctly, it's not like there's really anything further to develop in the region anyway. Keep the rushing as normal, build whatever clean military as needed, and make building any new facilities the topmost priority (Well, beside the SP builds anyway, of which there's....2 this turnchat for the region? I can't remember, it's late and I haven't slept in 2 days. ^^; ).
                    Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                    • #11
                      We have 1 SP earmarked for Centralis - the Cloning Vats in NA. And just how many more facilities does Centralis need, anyway? AFAIK, there's not a whole lot left to be built except sats.

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                      • #12
                        Rehome

                        Concordia Gatling Squad move to Valhalla, rehome and return to Sentry in Concordia (JV Gov request)
                        Aurora: - rehome Scout Patrol there to be supported from that city

                        Believer Incursion at Circular Quay
                        Chopper from NA to TacAc
                        Attack the first turn possible

                        Locusts of Chiron near DEM
                        This depends on what the locusts do generally. If they go for bases, there is nothing to do but wait for them to attack DEM. If they damage terrain improvements, move Empath Chaos Rotor from Egregion to NA this turn, to Zanarkand Gate next and then attack the Locusts.

                        Standing orders
                        At UNSG, continue to attack Hive targets of opportunity until afull complement of Defensive units fill the two transports in Egregion.


                        The following orders are all to be carried out as funds permit AFTER the Nano Factory ahs been built. None of these upgrades are judged to be particularly important over any other at present.


                        Upgrade after Nano Factory as funds permit

                        The immediate following relates to the UNIT SLOTS THEMSELVES. I want the Commish to go into the U unit design screen, find these units and upgrade the whole unit type. This will free up some slots for possible future prototypes.

                        Empath Scout Rovers to Empath Recon Rovers (1) - slot free
                        Trance Plasma Sentinels (4) to Clean Silksteel Sentinels - slot free
                        Trance Scout Defensives (2) to Trance Silksteel Defensives - slot free
                        Police Synthemtal Sentinel (1) to Police Silksteel Sentinel - slot free
                        Gatling Squad (1) to AAA Gatling Squad - slot free

                        Prototype

                        After the above, I want these prototyped.

                        Clean Coppers
                        1-1-1 (Clean, Police)

                        Clean Photon Garrison
                        1-5t-1*2 (Clean Trance)

                        IF there are no ACS MWIA Cruisers by this time, then do the following:

                        Prototype
                        ACS MWIA II (or whatever name)
                        13-5-6*2 (Clean, Deep)

                        upgrade ACS MWIA type to ACS MWIA II

                        f there are ACS MIWA units built by the time the Nana Factory is up, do not do any of the above


                        Further unit type upgrades
                        Police Infantrys (11) to Clean Coppers - slot free

                        Individual Unit Upgrades

                        Metropolis: Upgrade 2 Missile Interceptors to Clean Fusion Needlejet (Shangri-La, Tacticus Academy)
                        UN AquaXenobanana: Missile Interceptor to Clean Fusion Needlejet (Metropolis)
                        Capricorn: 2 Missile Interceptor to Clean Fusion Needlejets (Capricorn, NA)
                        Pandemonium: Trance Plasma Sentinels to Clean Photon Garrison
                        Terminal Dogma: Police Infantry to Clean Coppers
                        UNSG: Missile Interceptor to Clean Fusion Needlejet (NA)
                        UNPD: Police Synthmetal Garrison to Clean Photon Garrison
                        Xanadu Police Plasma Sentinel to Clean Photon Garrison
                        Consul.

                        Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
                          whoever is doing the orders for Akiria.
                          Herc didn't ask anyone to take over, so technically it's up to the AT. However, I could give orders if needs be, considering I'm Major of Aurora and will be Governor of Akiria next term.
                          Smile
                          For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                          But he would think of something

                          "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                          • #14
                            Please do if you want. My enthusiasm for ATship has dropped the last few days as you may have noticed.
                            Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                            Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                            • #15
                              TKG was so kind as to do orders for Twin Sea:

                              ..since nobody else is around to do it, i guess i might as well...



                              DPO Requests
                              Upgrade the garrisons in all bases

                              Build Queues ALL ARE CHANGED

                              Suez
                              Finish Transport
                              Robotic Assembly Plant
                              ACS MWIA class cruiser
                              MWIA Boat

                              Mysidia
                              RAP
                              13-5-6*2 (deep)
                              Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
                              Trance Fusion Hovertank Supply
                              Machines of Peace

                              Crystalis
                              Rush Hybrid Forest
                              Fusion Lab
                              Energy Bank
                              Research Hospital
                              Aerospace Complex
                              Centauri Preserve
                              Robotic Assembly Plant

                              Heaven's Gate
                              Rush Tree Farm
                              A Cheap Crawler
                              Hybrid Forest
                              Hab complex
                              Fusion Lab
                              energy bank
                              research hospital

                              UN Research Complex
                              Rush Tree farm
                              Hybrid Forest
                              fusion lab
                              Hab complex
                              Resarch hospital
                              Energy bank

                              Transcendance Academy
                              Rush network node
                              hybrid forest
                              hab complex
                              fusion lab
                              research hospital
                              aerospace complex

                              Workers
                              New Suez:
                              -turn empath into engineer

                              Mysidia:
                              -turn empath into forest worker

                              Crystalis:
                              -work 2 new boreholes

                              Heaven's Gate:
                              -when cralwer is built, move condensor worker to a borehole

                              UNRC:
                              -work one new borehole

                              TA:
                              -work 2 new boreholes

                              Crawlers
                              New Crawler from Heaven's Gate
                              -crawl Nuts from 26.114

                              Formers
                              Build boreholes based on the picture, but leave out #11, #12 and #16. there, i ordered it, and if they get built, you all know who to blame



                              27,93: tidal harness
                              26,94: tidal harness
                              26,92: tidal harness
                              in general to the rush requests (assuming they're past 10 mins), but we've really only got so much cash right now so there is a limit to how much we can rush on the first turn.

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