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  • #16
    moomin, this is thinker. 2 steps above talent

    and stop being so eco-frienldy. if anything, we should be encouraging pops now. havn't you read the eco damage formula? have you talked to blake?

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    • #17
      We are roleplaying as well as playing to win, so creating eco-damage just for the hell of it hardly seems appropriate to me. Think Green people, and keep Planet a peaceful place to live! (Shameless Green Party plug there, but hey, you know we're right )
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      For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
      But he would think of something

      "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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      • #18
        if we're role-playing, then how do we know about eco damage and pops?

        i'm not saying that we should just destroy the enivronment completely, just a bit (). otherwise we screw ourselves for later. if we prevent pops, then centauri preserves don't do any good.

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        • #19
          SCientist Pr. Blake from the Alternative Lab told us about a formula he made when we discover Centauri Ecology.
          "Just because you're paranoid doesnt mean there's not someone following me..."
          "I shall return and I shall be billions"

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          • #20
            I wont let you be the cancer of the planet. I'll be the cure.
            In what way will I be the 'cancer of Planet'? Building boreholes to speed up construction of Hybrid Forests will protect the environment in the long run, not damage it.

            GT, note that sometimes you have to remove workers from borehole tiles in order to avoid rampant ED. If you have actually worked the borehole, you lose 6 min and 6 energy, but if you have _crawled_ that borehole, then you can simply switch from min to energy and voila! You're ecofriendly and rich.
            You have me confused here. What do you actually want to do with boreholes?

            We are roleplaying as well as playing to win, so creating eco-damage just for the hell of it hardly seems appropriate to me. Think Green people, and keep Planet a peaceful place to live! (Shameless Green Party plug there, but hey, you know we're right )
            TKG has a good point; unless we know how the local ecosystem works (including how it reacts to damage), it willl be very difficult to protect.
            Last edited by GeneralTacticus; November 14, 2002, 21:48.

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            • #21
              We never knew the 'formula' for eco-damage on Old Earth but we still knew that building great drills into the planets crust would probably not be such a good thing! We may not know about pops, but I think we all know that the general theory is if we pollute more, we damage planet more, and the more heat we release, the more the ice caps will melt.
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              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
              But he would think of something

              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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              • #22
                Write in: Third option, only if a base has built or is building a tree-farm. Of course hybrid forests immediately upon availability.

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                • #23
                  We never knew the 'formula' for eco-damage on Old Earth but we still knew that building great drills into the planets crust would probably not be such a good thing! We may not know about pops, but I think we all know that the general theory is if we pollute more, we damage planet more, and the more heat we release, the more the ice caps will melt.
                  And the more minerals we produce, the faster we'll be able to build things to protect the environment (i.e. Tree Farms, Hybrid Forests & Centauri Preserves).

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                  • #24
                    Yea, just tell me that there's nothing more profitable to environment that huge cities full of factories and resource-gathering facilities...

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                    • #25
                      Yea, just tell me that there's nothing more profitable to environment that huge cities full of factories and resource-gathering facilities...
                      I'm not saying that's good for the environment, just pointing out that increasing mineral production (e.g. building boreholes) will help us build facilities to protect the environment.

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                      • #26
                        Building boreholes to speed up construction of Hybrid Forests will protect the environment in the long run, not damage it.


                        You're right. This is not the pollution which is a nuisance to environment, this is the impurities that are in air and water.

                        Anyway, we can rushbuy this jolly hybrid forests with EC from simple solars...
                        "Just because you're paranoid doesnt mean there's not someone following me..."
                        "I shall return and I shall be billions"

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                        • #27
                          The Common Worker Demands Boreholes!
                          Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                          • #28
                            I find it odd no one has voted "No boreholes at all." I distinctly remember several people telling they didn't want to harm Planet this way.
                            Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                            Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                            • #29
                              I think most of those people (like me) realise that to appease the common masses, we need *a few* boreholes, and as such voted "everyone planned" or "keep it modest". I'm, not against them completely, I just think they should be
                              1) Outside base squares, and
                              2) A very limited number of them, to create powerhouses maybe.
                              Last edited by Drogue; November 19, 2002, 08:50.
                              Smile
                              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                              But he would think of something

                              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                              • #30
                                The director indeed needs to take the common masses into account and take a moderate stance, but the voter doesn't need to! S/he has to follow his/her conscience. Because the most honest thing for me is to take the average of all votes, not just the most scoring option. So to form a counterweight against the pro-boreholers, it would've been best for the anti-boreholers to vote all 'No boreholes at all!' to pull the average down. Anyway, it doesn't matter now. The 'keep it modest' option will probably be the most scoring and most average winner.
                                Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                                Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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